STONE COLD REALITY CHECK

[BostonWu]

Traveling on business in California. A ton of youth baseball players in the parking lot. Later in in the evening 3 respectful teen boys ride the elevator up. I'm wearing WSU pullover.

Me: you here for baseball tournament?
Them: yes sir
Me: point to wushock logo and ask would you like to play for Wichita State?
Them: is that D2 or juco?
Me: no. They won D1 national championship in 1989.
Them: oH wow!

Might have been WW2

[BOBB]

Traveling on business in California. A ton of youth baseball players in the parking lot. Later in in the evening 3 respectful teen boys ride the elevator up. I'm wearing WSU pullover.

Me: you here for baseball tournament?
Them: yes sir
Me: point to wushock logo and ask would you like to play for Wichita State?
Them: is that D2 or juco?
Me: no. They won D1 national championship in 1989.
Them: oH wow!

Might have been WW2

Their dads may have been little kids the last time WSU was nationally relevant in baseball. Best thing for this program would have been to let Gene stay in Norman.

[WstateU]

Their dads may have been little kids the last time WSU was nationally relevant in baseball. Best thing for this program would have been to let Gene stay in Norman.

[Shockm]

Their dads may have been little kids the last time WSU was nationally relevant in baseball. Best thing for this program would have been to let Gene stay in Norman.

With age goes memory but it hasn't been as long as you say, although we got really spoiled (expected Omaha always) for a while after they won the National Championship.

1980	0–2	.000	Eliminated by Cal in the Midwest Regional
1981	1–2	.333	Eliminated by East Tennessee State in Atlantic Regional
1982	12–2	.857	South Regional Champions College World Series (2nd place)
1983	1–2	.333	Eliminated by Oral Roberts in the Midwest Regional
1985	3–2	.666	Eliminated by Oklahoma State in Midwest Regional
1987	1–2	.333	Eliminated by Oral Roberts in the West I Regional
1988	6–2	.750	Won the Midwest Regional College World Series (3rd place)
1989	10–2	.833	Won the West II Regional College World Series Champions
1990	1–2	.333	Eliminated by UCLA in the Midwest Regional
1991	7–1	.875	Won the Midwest Regional College World Series (2nd place)
1992	4–2	.667	Won the Midwest Regional College World Series (7th place)
1993	7–2	.778	Won the Midwest Regional College World Series (2nd place)
1994	0-2	.000	Eliminated by Georgia Tech in the Midwest Regional
1995	1–2	.333	Eliminated by Lamar in the Midwest Regional
1996	4–2	.667	Won the Midwest Regional College World Series (7th place)
1997	0–2	.000	Eliminated by Alabama in the South II Regional
1998	1–2	.333	Eliminated by Arizona State in the Midwest Regional
1999	2–2	.500	Eliminated by Oklahoma State in the Wichita Regional
2000	2–2	.500	Eliminated by Nebraska in the Minneapolis Regional
2002	1–2	.333	Eliminated by Oral Roberts in the Wichita Regional
2003	2–2	.500	Eliminated by Rice in the Houston Regional
2004	1–2	.333	Eliminated by Arkansas in the Fayetteville Regional
2005	2–2	.500	Eliminated by Tennessee in the Knoxville Regional
2006	2–2	.500	Eliminated by Oklahoma in the Norman Regional
2007	4–3	.571	Wichita Regional Champions Eliminated by UC Irvine in the Wichita Super Regional
2008	4–2	.667	Stillwater Regional Champions Eliminated by Florida State in the Tallahassee Super Regional
2009	0–2	.000	Eliminated by Washington State in the Norman Regional
2013*	0–2	.000	Eliminated by Arkansas in the Manhattan Regional

[BOBB]

With age goes memory but it hasn't been as long as you say, although we got really spoiled (expected Omaha always) for a while after they won the National Championship.

1980	0–2	.000	Eliminated by Cal in the Midwest Regional
1981	1–2	.333	Eliminated by East Tennessee State in Atlantic Regional
1982	12–2	.857	South Regional Champions College World Series (2nd place)
1983	1–2	.333	Eliminated by Oral Roberts in the Midwest Regional
1985	3–2	.666	Eliminated by Oklahoma State in Midwest Regional
1987	1–2	.333	Eliminated by Oral Roberts in the West I Regional
1988	6–2	.750	Won the Midwest Regional College World Series (3rd place)
1989	10–2	.833	Won the West II Regional College World Series Champions
1990	1–2	.333	Eliminated by UCLA in the Midwest Regional
1991	7–1	.875	Won the Midwest Regional College World Series (2nd place)
1992	4–2	.667	Won the Midwest Regional College World Series (7th place)
1993	7–2	.778	Won the Midwest Regional College World Series (2nd place)
1994	0-2	.000	Eliminated by Georgia Tech in the Midwest Regional
1995	1–2	.333	Eliminated by Lamar in the Midwest Regional
1996	4–2	.667	Won the Midwest Regional College World Series (7th place)
1997	0–2	.000	Eliminated by Alabama in the South II Regional
1998	1–2	.333	Eliminated by Arizona State in the Midwest Regional
1999	2–2	.500	Eliminated by Oklahoma State in the Wichita Regional
2000	2–2	.500	Eliminated by Nebraska in the Minneapolis Regional
2002	1–2	.333	Eliminated by Oral Roberts in the Wichita Regional
2003	2–2	.500	Eliminated by Rice in the Houston Regional
2004	1–2	.333	Eliminated by Arkansas in the Fayetteville Regional
2005	2–2	.500	Eliminated by Tennessee in the Knoxville Regional
2006	2–2	.500	Eliminated by Oklahoma in the Norman Regional
2007	4–3	.571	Wichita Regional Champions Eliminated by UC Irvine in the Wichita Super Regional
2008	4–2	.667	Stillwater Regional Champions Eliminated by Florida State in the Tallahassee Super Regional
2009	0–2	.000	Eliminated by Washington State in the Norman Regional
2013*	0–2	.000	Eliminated by Arkansas in the Manhattan Regional

15 years since the last regional win and 10 since the last appearance is a long time and I can’t imagine that drought is ending this year.

27 since the last CWS appearance. People have been in high school, gone to WSU, met at the Field House, conceived, and raised WSU graduates in that time.

[Kung Wu]

15 years since the last regional win and 10 since the last appearance is a long time and I can’t imagine that drought is ending this year.

Not so sure.

There's reason to believe we could have a surprisingly good season this year. We'll know soon enough.

[pogo]

Not so sure.

There's reason to believe we could have a surprisingly good season this year. We'll know soon enough.

Hope springs eternal...until the cold dead hand of reality sets in.

[Kung Wu]

Hope springs eternal...until the cold dead hand of reality sets in.

True.

But for all of his faults, Wedge recruited well. Pelfrey is no longer coaching under an incompetent coach (Butler) or neurotic situation (Wedge). Scooter is old enough and wise enough to delegate and the pitchers like Pelfrey. They'll be better this year.

And we can bat.

So there's reason to believe we can do better than most expect this season.

[1972Shocker]

So there's reason to believe we can do better than most expect this season.

There are reasons to believe we won't go backwards with Wedge's departure.

There are reasons to hope can can do better than expected. However, there are not necessarily many reasons based on actual performance that you can hang your hat on to believe we will do better than expected. I think more time is needed for that.

The Shocks were pretty competitive against Long Beach State but blew game 2 with supposedly one of their top pitchers the culprit. Not sure what you take away from the Utah Tech series especially the 4-12 blowout loss in game 1.

I don't think Oakland is going to provide much to go on this weekend.

I will defer whether or not there are reasons for me to believe the Shocks are on their way until AAC play gets here at the end of March.

[Kung Wu]

There are reasons to believe we won't go backwards with Wedge's departure.

There are reasons to hope can can do better than expected. However, there are not necessarily many reasons based on actual performance that you can hang your hat on to believe we will do better than expected. I think more time is needed for that.

The Shocks were pretty competitive against Long Beach State but blew game 2 with supposedly one of their top pitchers the culprit. Not sure what you take away from the Utah Tech series especially the 4-12 blowout loss in game 1.

I don't think Oakland is going to provide much to go on this weekend.

I will defer whether or not there are reasons for me to believe the Shocks are on their way until AAC play gets here at the end of March.

Yup it's too early to tell. But we have a stable coaching staff now, some skilled upperclassmen, strong team chemistry, we can bat, and maybe we can finally pitch a little too? Let's see if they can put it all together.

[WstateU]

Yup it's too early to tell. But we have a stable coaching staff now, some skilled upperclassmen, strong team chemistry, we can bat, and maybe we can finally pitch a little too? Let's see if they can put it all together.

It's about time, cause I'm running out of time. Nothing wrong with a little optimism every now and then...

[1972Shocker]

Yup it's too early to tell. But we have a stable coaching staff now, some skilled upperclassmen, strong team chemistry, we can bat, and maybe we can finally pitch a little too? Let's see if they can put it all together.

Yep, reasons for hope, but to believe takes a bit more evidence for me.

[ShockerFever]

True.

But for all of his faults, Wedge recruited well. Pelfrey is no longer coaching under an incompetent coach (Butler) or neurotic situation (Wedge). Scooter is old enough and wise enough to delegate and the pitchers like Pelfrey. They'll be better this year.

And we can bat.

So there's reason to believe we can do better than most expect this season.

Say what?

[SB Shock]

True.

But for all of his faults, Wedge recruited well.

Too bad they can't play up to their recruited potential.

Pelfrey is no longer coaching under an incompetent coach (Butler) or neurotic situation (Wedge).

What I have heard is Pelfrey may also be part of the problem

Scooter is old enough and wise enough to delegate and the pitchers like Pelfrey.

See above... I heard he is doing the exact opposite.

They'll be better this year.

And we can bat.

A team is not going anywhere with team ERA that is ranked in the 100's

So there's reason to believe we can do better than most expect this season.

I disagree. 6-4 against RPI 226 competition. Gonna have to do much better than that.

[Kung Wu]

I disagree. 6-4 against RPI 226 competition. Gonna have to do much better than that.

RPI is meaningless right now.

Let me ask this ... what RPI do you think we will finish with this season with?