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    Traveling on business in California. A ton of youth baseball players in the parking lot. Later in in the evening 3 respectful teen boys ride the elevator up. I'm wearing WSU pullover.

    Me: you here for baseball tournament?
    Them: yes sir
    Me: point to wushock logo and ask would you like to play for Wichita State?
    Them: is that D2 or juco?
    Me: no. They won D1 national championship in 1989.
    Them: oH wow!

    Might have been WW2
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  • #2
    Originally posted by BostonWu View Post
    Traveling on business in California. A ton of youth baseball players in the parking lot. Later in in the evening 3 respectful teen boys ride the elevator up. I'm wearing WSU pullover.

    Me: you here for baseball tournament?
    Them: yes sir
    Me: point to wushock logo and ask would you like to play for Wichita State?
    Them: is that D2 or juco?
    Me: no. They won D1 national championship in 1989.
    Them: oH wow!

    Might have been WW2
    Their dads may have been little kids the last time WSU was nationally relevant in baseball. Best thing for this program would have been to let Gene stay in Norman.
    Wichita State, home of the All-Americans.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by BOBB View Post

      Their dads may have been little kids the last time WSU was nationally relevant in baseball. Best thing for this program would have been to let Gene stay in Norman.
      "You Just Want to Slap The #### Outta Some People"

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      • #4
        Originally posted by BOBB View Post

        Their dads may have been little kids the last time WSU was nationally relevant in baseball. Best thing for this program would have been to let Gene stay in Norman.
        With age goes memory but it hasn't been as long as you say, although we got really spoiled (expected Omaha always) for a while after they won the National Championship.
        1980 0–2 .000 Eliminated by Cal in the Midwest Regional
        1981 1–2 .333 Eliminated by East Tennessee State in Atlantic Regional
        1982 12–2 .857 South Regional Champions
        College World Series (2nd place)
        1983 1–2 .333 Eliminated by Oral Roberts in the Midwest Regional
        1985 3–2 .666 Eliminated by Oklahoma State in Midwest Regional
        1987 1–2 .333 Eliminated by Oral Roberts in the West I Regional
        1988 6–2 .750 Won the Midwest Regional
        College World Series (3rd place)
        1989 10–2 .833 Won the West II Regional
        College World Series Champions
        1990 1–2 .333 Eliminated by UCLA in the Midwest Regional
        1991 7–1 .875 Won the Midwest Regional
        College World Series (2nd place)
        1992 4–2 .667 Won the Midwest Regional
        College World Series (7th place)
        1993 7–2 .778 Won the Midwest Regional
        College World Series (2nd place)
        1994 0-2 .000 Eliminated by Georgia Tech in the Midwest Regional
        1995 1–2 .333 Eliminated by Lamar in the Midwest Regional
        1996 4–2 .667 Won the Midwest Regional
        College World Series (7th place)
        1997 0–2 .000 Eliminated by Alabama in the South II Regional
        1998 1–2 .333 Eliminated by Arizona State in the Midwest Regional
        1999 2–2 .500 Eliminated by Oklahoma State in the Wichita Regional
        2000 2–2 .500 Eliminated by Nebraska in the Minneapolis Regional
        2002 1–2 .333 Eliminated by Oral Roberts in the Wichita Regional
        2003 2–2 .500 Eliminated by Rice in the Houston Regional
        2004 1–2 .333 Eliminated by Arkansas in the Fayetteville Regional
        2005 2–2 .500 Eliminated by Tennessee in the Knoxville Regional
        2006 2–2 .500 Eliminated by Oklahoma in the Norman Regional
        2007 4–3 .571 Wichita Regional Champions
        Eliminated by UC Irvine in the Wichita Super Regional
        2008 4–2 .667 Stillwater Regional Champions
        Eliminated by Florida State in the Tallahassee Super Regional
        2009 0–2 .000 Eliminated by Washington State in the Norman Regional
        2013* 0–2 .000 Eliminated by Arkansas in the Manhattan Regional

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Shockm View Post

          With age goes memory but it hasn't been as long as you say, although we got really spoiled (expected Omaha always) for a while after they won the National Championship.
          1980 0–2 .000 Eliminated by Cal in the Midwest Regional
          1981 1–2 .333 Eliminated by East Tennessee State in Atlantic Regional
          1982 12–2 .857 South Regional Champions
          College World Series (2nd place)
          1983 1–2 .333 Eliminated by Oral Roberts in the Midwest Regional
          1985 3–2 .666 Eliminated by Oklahoma State in Midwest Regional
          1987 1–2 .333 Eliminated by Oral Roberts in the West I Regional
          1988 6–2 .750 Won the Midwest Regional
          College World Series (3rd place)
          1989 10–2 .833 Won the West II Regional
          College World Series Champions
          1990 1–2 .333 Eliminated by UCLA in the Midwest Regional
          1991 7–1 .875 Won the Midwest Regional
          College World Series (2nd place)
          1992 4–2 .667 Won the Midwest Regional
          College World Series (7th place)
          1993 7–2 .778 Won the Midwest Regional
          College World Series (2nd place)
          1994 0-2 .000 Eliminated by Georgia Tech in the Midwest Regional
          1995 1–2 .333 Eliminated by Lamar in the Midwest Regional
          1996 4–2 .667 Won the Midwest Regional
          College World Series (7th place)
          1997 0–2 .000 Eliminated by Alabama in the South II Regional
          1998 1–2 .333 Eliminated by Arizona State in the Midwest Regional
          1999 2–2 .500 Eliminated by Oklahoma State in the Wichita Regional
          2000 2–2 .500 Eliminated by Nebraska in the Minneapolis Regional
          2002 1–2 .333 Eliminated by Oral Roberts in the Wichita Regional
          2003 2–2 .500 Eliminated by Rice in the Houston Regional
          2004 1–2 .333 Eliminated by Arkansas in the Fayetteville Regional
          2005 2–2 .500 Eliminated by Tennessee in the Knoxville Regional
          2006 2–2 .500 Eliminated by Oklahoma in the Norman Regional
          2007 4–3 .571 Wichita Regional Champions
          Eliminated by UC Irvine in the Wichita Super Regional
          2008 4–2 .667 Stillwater Regional Champions
          Eliminated by Florida State in the Tallahassee Super Regional
          2009 0–2 .000 Eliminated by Washington State in the Norman Regional
          2013* 0–2 .000 Eliminated by Arkansas in the Manhattan Regional
          15 years since the last regional win and 10 since the last appearance is a long time and I can’t imagine that drought is ending this year.

          27 since the last CWS appearance. People have been in high school, gone to WSU, met at the Field House, conceived, and raised WSU graduates in that time.
          Wichita State, home of the All-Americans.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by BOBB View Post
            15 years since the last regional win and 10 since the last appearance is a long time and I can’t imagine that drought is ending this year.
            Not so sure.

            There's reason to believe we could have a surprisingly good season this year. We'll know soon enough.

            Kung Wu say, man making mistake in elevator wrong on many levels.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post

              Not so sure.

              There's reason to believe we could have a surprisingly good season this year. We'll know soon enough.
              Hope springs eternal...until the cold dead hand of reality sets in.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by pogo View Post

                Hope springs eternal...until the cold dead hand of reality sets in.
                True.

                But for all of his faults, Wedge recruited well. Pelfrey is no longer coaching under an incompetent coach (Butler) or neurotic situation (Wedge). Scooter is old enough and wise enough to delegate and the pitchers like Pelfrey. They'll be better this year.

                And we can bat.

                So there's reason to believe we can do better than most expect this season.
                Kung Wu say, man making mistake in elevator wrong on many levels.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post
                  So there's reason to believe we can do better than most expect this season.
                  There are reasons to believe we won't go backwards with Wedge's departure.

                  There are reasons to hope can can do better than expected. However, there are not necessarily many reasons based on actual performance that you can hang your hat on to believe we will do better than expected. I think more time is needed for that.

                  The Shocks were pretty competitive against Long Beach State but blew game 2 with supposedly one of their top pitchers the culprit. Not sure what you take away from the Utah Tech series especially the 4-12 blowout loss in game 1.

                  I don't think Oakland is going to provide much to go on this weekend.

                  I will defer whether or not there are reasons for me to believe the Shocks are on their way until AAC play gets here at the end of March.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by 1972Shocker View Post

                    There are reasons to believe we won't go backwards with Wedge's departure.

                    There are reasons to hope can can do better than expected. However, there are not necessarily many reasons based on actual performance that you can hang your hat on to believe we will do better than expected. I think more time is needed for that.

                    The Shocks were pretty competitive against Long Beach State but blew game 2 with supposedly one of their top pitchers the culprit. Not sure what you take away from the Utah Tech series especially the 4-12 blowout loss in game 1.

                    I don't think Oakland is going to provide much to go on this weekend.

                    I will defer whether or not there are reasons for me to believe the Shocks are on their way until AAC play gets here at the end of March.
                    Yup it's too early to tell. But we have a stable coaching staff now, some skilled upperclassmen, strong team chemistry, we can bat, and maybe we can finally pitch a little too? Let's see if they can put it all together.
                    Kung Wu say, man making mistake in elevator wrong on many levels.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post

                      Yup it's too early to tell. But we have a stable coaching staff now, some skilled upperclassmen, strong team chemistry, we can bat, and maybe we can finally pitch a little too? Let's see if they can put it all together.
                      It's about time, cause I'm running out of time. Nothing wrong with a little optimism every now and then...

                      "You Just Want to Slap The #### Outta Some People"

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post

                        Yup it's too early to tell. But we have a stable coaching staff now, some skilled upperclassmen, strong team chemistry, we can bat, and maybe we can finally pitch a little too? Let's see if they can put it all together.
                        Yep, reasons for hope, but to believe takes a bit more evidence for me.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post

                          True.

                          But for all of his faults, Wedge recruited well. Pelfrey is no longer coaching under an incompetent coach (Butler) or neurotic situation (Wedge). Scooter is old enough and wise enough to delegate and the pitchers like Pelfrey. They'll be better this year.

                          And we can bat.

                          So there's reason to believe we can do better than most expect this season.
                          Say what?
                          Deuces Valley.
                          ... No really, deuces.
                          ________________
                          "Enjoy the ride."

                          - a smart man

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post

                            True.

                            But for all of his faults, Wedge recruited well.
                            Too bad they can't play up to their recruited potential.

                            Pelfrey is no longer coaching under an incompetent coach (Butler) or neurotic situation (Wedge).
                            What I have heard is Pelfrey may also be part of the problem

                            Scooter is old enough and wise enough to delegate and the pitchers like Pelfrey.
                            See above... I heard he is doing the exact opposite.

                            They'll be better this year.

                            And we can bat.
                            A team is not going anywhere with team ERA that is ranked in the 100's


                            So there's reason to believe we can do better than most expect this season.
                            I disagree. 6-4 against RPI 226 competition. Gonna have to do much better than that.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by SB Shock View Post
                              I disagree. 6-4 against RPI 226 competition. Gonna have to do much better than that.
                              RPI is meaningless right now.

                              Let me ask this ... what RPI do you think we will finish with this season with?

                              Kung Wu say, man making mistake in elevator wrong on many levels.

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