2011 MVC Baseball Tournament

[SB Shock]

Their #1 threw over 110 pitches on Wednesday. No way he is feeling very good on 2 days rest.

Two words for you - Charley Boyce

Ummmm, you're right, that will inevitably happen again and we are doomed to a loss.

Is that the response you are looking for?

Anybody feeling good about tomorrow has not been following this team this year. Though could come out and lay down a epic beat down on CU or the opposite.

Agreed. Was just trying to figure out your odd argumentativeness against anyone pointing out that the CU staff is worn out.

But they are not any more wore down than WSU. In some ways less since their No. 2 hardly pitched any and will be able to come back and pitch. Sure their No. 1 is coming back on 2 days rest - but Servais doesn't care. He will do whatever it takes for them to win.

I have no doubt if the WSU hitters come out focused and we don't get a umpiring screw job (e.g. an umpire calling everything a strike) that this would be a beat down like yesterday on the ISUB. But this team always surprises (in not so good ways), plus I worry about Lowell coming back on 3 days rest being sharp.

[Shirley Schmidt]

plus I worry about Lowell coming back on 3 days rest being sharp.

Just like Cooper last year did not do well in the Championship game.

Let's hope that the outcome is different this season.

[Shocker85]

But they are not any more wore down than WSU. In some ways less since their No. 2 hardly pitched any and will be able to come back and pitch. Sure their No. 1 is coming back on 2 days rest - but Servais doesn't care. He will do whatever it takes for them to win.

I have no doubt if the WSU hitters come out focused and we don't get a umpiring screw job (e.g. an umpire calling everything a strike) that this would be a beat down like yesterday on the ISUB. But this team always surprises (in not so good ways), plus I worry about Lowell coming back on 3 days rest being sharp.

Well SB, you're wrong - the sCUm pitching staff has been taxed in this tournament. There have been 19 pitching appearances for them vs. 9 for WSU pitchers. sCUm has already played 5 games in 3 days, WSU 4 games in 4 days. Servais will probably say, "Dufek really has 4 days rest since he pitched Wed. morning and today's game is an evening game." BS. Blach threw 70 pitches on Thursday and was mostly ineffective. I say, bring him on - the Shox torched him for 13 hits in 6 innings two weeks ago.

The Shox have most assuredly been inconsistent this season, however, they have won 8 of their last 9 games with the lone loss a close game that was cut short by a bad call. The Shox are scoring some runs now and the bull pen has been pretty solid.

Could there be a meltdown? Sure. But I most definitely like the Shox chances today - the odds are in our favor.

--'85.

[WuDrWu]

I wouldn't say the BJ staff hasn't been taxed, but they have relievers by committee and nobody has thrown all that many pitches.

Plus, outside of their starters (kind of) their 'pen isn't really a bunch of hard throwers. It's kind of one junk thrower after another, they just look different. Not a bad plan at all if you aren't loaded with talent.

They'll have plenty of arms to throw at us if Dufek can't go long. Ed thinks they're in the tourney anyway, so I wouldn't expect him to go more than 4 or 5, then it would be 4 to 5 guys for an inning or situation each.

CU just doesn't give up a ton of runs, and you know they aren't going to be themselves, which to me is the biggest factor. Creighton could beat WSU and WSU could beat themselves.

The saving grace is that if both teams play their best game, we win. I do like our chances of Charlie having his A game more than Dufek but that doesn't mean much. Like most days, getting out early will be key. Neither team is a particularly good come from behind team and both have been struggling at the dish.

In my opinion, we owe Creighton forever, so it's just time to win this one.


:wsu_posters: :goshocks: :posterwu: :posterwsu:

[sdshox]

I'm planning on going in to the game tonight, but don't particularly want to be surrounded in blue.

Anyone know which dugout the Shox will be in tonight??

[newshock1234]

I'm planning on going in to the game tonight, but don't particularly want to be surrounded in blue.

Anyone know which dugout the Shox will be in tonight??

The winning one :D :wsu_posters:

[ShockerFever]

sCUm media has pegged it up for a comparison with the 1991 CWS game and one of the most important games in sCUm's lives. For WSU, it's just another ho-hum championship game appearance and in an effort to avoid their first back-to-back NCAA absence in the Gene era.

Too bad there's no freebies tonight or that'd be a guaranteed 24,000. Also, a Taylor Swift concert at the same time is going to draw a lot of sCUm fans away from the ballpark. Too bad. Still should have well over 10k in place.

[sdshox]

Just called TicketMaster and got set up for tonight. I'm guessing there might be 5,000 in attendance, MAYBE. Still a ton of seats left open, and they're not even selling in half the sections...

[ShockerFever]

Still a ton of seats left open, and they're not even selling in half the sections...

That's because they're only gonna open up seats where the camera angles make it appear to be a full stadium. A very nice tactic when you're fighting the empty seat syndrome.

[1979Shocker]

With it being on TV, there probably won't be that many at the game.

[SB Shock]

Well SB, you're wrong - the sCUm pitching staff has been taxed in this tournament. There have been 19 pitching appearances for them vs. 9 for WSU pitchers.
--'85.

If saying make you feel better so be it but it doesn't make it true. CU is bullpen by committee type team. They will run 7 guys out in a game. That is nothing new to them. I expect servais is telling each of his pitcher in the bullpen "Give me 1 inning, that all I am asking". You can already see Servais is not going to hold anything back regardless how much anybody pitched in the tournament.

Yeah WSU has 9 different guys pitch, but that is pretty much their staff. It is not like your going to have anybody fresh just waiting for their chance (unless you looking to Sossamon).

I really hope you are right and we embarrass CU and the selection committee is watching and they don't get an at-large.

[GoShockers89]

Dumb argument.

Everyone is saying their arms are tired. You're saying this statement is wrong because the coach is willing to use the entire staff regardless of recent use. Poor logic.

Go Shocks, wipe the rectum of the Midwest that is Omaha with Bluejay feathers tonight!

[shockfan89_]

I agree with SB on this one. On paper WSU does have the more rested staff but that is assuming both coaches use the same logic with respect to pitchers. I don't think that is the case. I think CU will throw whoever they think gives them the best chance to win the game.

CU may be saying they are a lock for an at-large, but we will see if they actually believe that based on the use of their pitching staff tonight...

[SB Shock]

Well SB, you're wrong - the sCUm pitching staff has been taxed in this tournament.

--'85.

NO '85, YOU WERE WRONG. 4 Shockers Hits. 14 STRIKEOUTS.

[Shocker85]

Well SB, you're wrong - the sCUm pitching staff has been taxed in this tournament.

--'85.

NO '85, YOU WERE WRONG. 4 Shockers Hits. 14 STRIKEOUTS.

Believe me, it was NOT the pitchers that only allowed 4 hits and struck out 14 Shox batters, the Shox did it to themselves. The game plan and approach at the plate tonight was absolutely WRONG - WSU totally let the pitchers dictate the game. I'm sure the plan was to make Dufek and Blach run up their pitch count, but those two guys are too good for that. You have to be aggressive against them.

I'll let you claim victory, but if you watched batter after batter go up and let strike one go by and then dive out over the plate at breaking stuff, you'll agree. The hitters should have approached the game like they did vs. Indy State on Friday.

--'85.