The Flaming Burning Stinking & Predictable Disaster that is Creighton Basketball

[SHOCKvalue]

Fixed it.

Although I don't see how the unfortunate conference realignment has anything to do with "the rising costs of scholarships". Did the BE make CU raise their tuition in order to join their elite league?

The only thing the BE has done to hurt Creighton's bottom line is the travel expense increase, which should have been more than handled by the FS1 charity donation. Sounds like the current fund drive is nothing more than CU inferring they don't currently bring in enough revenue - via current avenues - to remain relevant, without saying as much specifically.

CU, from an athletics standpoint, doesn't have nearly the volume of green as the drunk trustafarians would like you to believe. In spite of the nearly 70% arena seating advantage, and all the supposed money CU alums have, their SASO equivalent still only brings in roughly the same amount as WSU's SASO. (I sourced those numbers and posted them on here in the past 12 or 18 months, but I'm not going to do it again right now.) Additionally, CU's overall AD budget still trails WSU by a fairly large margin. The most current data, via the DOE's Equity in Athletics site, shows over a $4M gap. Their overall AD budget stil slots them in at barely above MVC average. They are probably downright pathetic compared to the majority of the BE.

I've always maintained that CU athletics are a mirage, and I will remain of that opinion.

[SHOCKvalue]

The revelation that CU is hard up for money piqued my curiosity as to how they stack up to their BE conference mates in overall athletic department spending. The picture is not good, and reveals that CU is a weak sister in their shiny, new, bigger pond.

Most recent AD budget numbers (revenues) from the DOE's Equity in Athletics site (http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/):

St Johns - $37.7M
Villanova - $34.9M
Georgetown - $34.5M
Marquette - $29.7M
Providence - $26.0M
DePaul - $25.0M
Seton Hall - $21.7M
Creighton - $18.3M
Butler - $17.6M
Xavier - $16.6M

...and if you were wondering, WSU - $22.7M

Do you need any more proof of the severe dilution the BE underwent during their shakeup than the fact that the 3 new replacement members all have what amounts to mid-level MVC AD budgets? CU, BU, and XU are the dude living in the interest-only mortgaged home, driving leased cars, and paying his electric bill with a CC. Again... mirage.

[Dave Stalwart]

The revelation that CU is hard up for money piqued my curiosity as to how they stack up to their BE conference mates in overall athletic department spending. The picture is not good, and reveals that CU is a weak sister in their shiny, new, bigger pond.

Most recent AD budget numbers (revenues) from the DOE's Equity in Athletics site (http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/):

St Johns - $37.7M
Villanova - $34.9M
Georgetown - $34.5M
Marquette - $29.7M
Providence - $26.0M
DePaul - $25.0M
Seton Hall - $21.7M
Creighton - $18.3M
Butler - $17.6M
Xavier - $16.6M

...and if you were wondering, WSU - $22.7M

Do you need any more proof of the severe dilution the BE underwent during their shakeup than the fact that the 3 new replacement members all have what amounts to mid-level MVC AD budgets? CU, BU, and XU are the dude living in the interest-only mortgaged home, driving leased cars, and paying his electric bill with a CC. Again... mirage.

It's interesting. Now go grab the same figures for the schools that left the Big East. I bet they were literally ALL at the upper end.

[SHOCKvalue]

It's interesting. Now go grab the same figures for the schools that left the Big East. I bet they were literally ALL at the upper end.

It is interesting.

Sorry, I don't have time to get the old BE schools' data, but I would bet you are correct by a large margin. It is easy to get the info from the source link I posted.

[Dan]

Butler and Xavier seem to do alright with the smallest budgets.

[Dave Stalwart]

It is interesting.

Sorry, I don't have time to get the old BE schools' data, but I would bet you are correct by a large margin. It is easy to get the info from the source link I posted.

Right. I'm just saying...

Thats why it's the mid major east now...

[SB Shock]

Syracuse -87.6 M
UCON - 71.2 M
Pitt - 61.1 M
Rutgers - 70.1 M
Louisville - 89.4 M

[Dave Stalwart]

Syracuse -87.6 M
UCON - 71.2 M
Pitt - 61.1 M
Rutgers - 70.1 M
Louisville - 89.4 M

That is even worse than I thought. That means the combined three additions don't even equal one of the teams that left.

[Shock Therapy]

That is even worse than I thought. That means the combined three additions don't even equal one of the teams that left.

That's really misleading. Football is pretty expensive.

[jocoshock]

So this is what has evolved in Omaha:

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LMFAO

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[Dave Stalwart]

With creightons win today, they are... still last in the big east

[Shock Therapy]

With creightons win today, they are... still last in the big east

Bahahaha. Every win brings them closer to still being last in the BIG EAST.

[ShockerFever]

Irrelevance.

[WSUwatcher]

Butler and Xavier seem to do alright with the smallest budgets.

And DePaul isn't exactly getting its $25 million's worth, I'd say.

[shox1989]

And DePaul isn't exactly getting its $25 million's worth, I'd say.

I have a feeling that just being in Chicago is expensive.