Penn St- gets hammered by NCAA!

[Dan]

Per Wikipedia, the SMU penalty was as follows:

- The 1987 season was canceled; only conditioning drills were permitted during the 1987 calendar year.
- All home games in 1988 were canceled. SMU was allowed to play their seven regularly scheduled away games so that other institutions would not be financially affected.
- The team's existing probation was extended until 1990. Its existing ban from bowl games and live television was extended to 1989.
- SMU lost 55 new scholarship positions over 4 years.
- SMU was required to ensure that Owen and eight other boosters previously banned from contact with the program were in fact banned, or else face further punishment.
- The team was allowed to hire only five full-time assistant coaches, instead of the typical nine.
- No off-campus recruiting was permitted until August 1988, and no paid visits could be made to campus by potential recruits until the start of the 1988-89 school year

If and when the players start transferring, it could be a long time before Penn State is relevant again in college football. Who would send their kid there after all this?

[SubGod22]

I've heard that the NCAA may be considering letting other Universities go over the scholarship limit if they take a PSU transfer. That would make it easier for these kids to transfer if they wanted to now as there's not a lot of room available elsewhere. I'm glad they're free to transfer without punishment and that the incoming freshmen can't be held to their LOI if they want to leave.

[rrshock]

The losing of the Big 10 revenue and bowl revenues probably take away close to $15 million in my estimate. Maybe more. Plus I'm sure that they won't be getting any extra games on TV this season or anywhere in the forseen future. And that $60 million has to come from football, nowhere else in the athletic department. They are really getting to them where hurts the most...the pocket book.

[dregn]

Remember the 60 million is 1 years gross revenue, so it would be multiple years of net. All money will go to charities. All players can transfer and play next year. 4 years from now the team will only have 60 scholarship players (15 per year) leaving them at less than fcs levels. All scholarship players currently on the team can still attend Penn state next year on scholarship whether or not they participate on the field.

[1972Shocker]

This pretty much reboots the entire PSU football program and indelibly stamps the program with the crimes those responsible committed. I think that was the goal, and I suggest that was accomplished with these measures.

IMO rebooting the program probably was a goal but not necessarily to stamp it with the crimes that were committed. That really is not the function of the NCAA. I think the goal was to rein in a program that had become bigger than the University with an insular, entitlement mentality that lead to the leaders of the program and school believing that protrecting that program was the most important function of Penn State University.

"Football will never again be placed ahead of educating, nurturing and protecting young people," Emmert said.

Maybe the goal is to send a broader message to all NCAA schools that big-time college sports needs to kept in the proper perspective.

Now whether that is actually the goal or whether it will be successful is debatable. Considering the money involved in these big-time college football programs I'm not sure the perspective will change much, but hopefully it might avoid the ostrich head buried in the sand approach to very aggregious activities such as was exhibited by the top dogs at Penn State.

[pinstripers]

They need to require that "Success With Honor" be forever removed from all PSU buildings, locker rooms, pamphlets, programs, etc. Forever.

[1972Shocker]

They need to require that "Success With Honor" be forever removed from all PSU buildings, locker rooms, pamphlets, programs, etc. Forever.

I don't agree. I think that should remain. However, they should add an inscription below it wherever it appears that reads: "Do As We Say, Not As We Do"

[CourtJester]

I don't like taking away scholarships from kids (I'm a teacher) and I didn't want the death penalty. Without Penn State football, that whole athletic department shuts down depriving kids. I wanted to see Penn State have to finance the families and a suitable charity (research, treatment for example) for the next 10 years. Not sure those that caused this got punished enough but it seems like the student athletes got nailed to the cross.

[SubGod22]

Those kids will get free rides elsewhere. The University must suffer and they know it. Nine figures will go to some form of charities. The AD has to be punished or else the NCAA is a complete joke. And the U isn't done getting punished. The DOJ and/or the DOE will have more.

[CourtJester]

They will get offers elsewhere, but then they are bumping kids from other schools. It is the domino effect and eventually, some kid at a small school is going to get the shaft. Punish the leaders, don't crucify student athletes.

Those kids will get free rides elsewhere. The University must suffer and they know it. Nine figures will go to some form of charities. The AD has to be punished or else the NCAA is a complete joke. And the U isn't done getting punished. The DOJ and/or the DOE will have more.

[Aargh]

Follow the domino effect and 20 guys who would have likely gotten JuCo schollies and been bench warmers will have to pay their own way.

The NCAA can totally avoid that problem by letting schools go X number of schollies over the limit if they take that number of players from PSU. I'd think 2 would be a good number for X. I'm certain KU would be delighted to take 2 players from PSU's 3rd team.

[SubGod22]

That is being considered by the NCAA. Not sure when the final decision will be made

[pinstripers]

Get serious folks. The hot dog vendors suffered at SMU as well, that is always the way it is.

[SubGod22]

There have been reports of interviews with people within the NCAA that have said that PSU was given a choice by the NCAA. They could accept these penalties and sign a decree stating so and that they wouldn't fight it, or be given a four year Death Penalty. I've seen mixed reports after that though. Some have said that would be it, no other fines or penalties, but othes have said it was four years plus other stuff, but with no specifics. Sounds like PSU, by cooperating, got off easy.

[Kung Wu]

A disturbing thought: Let's say this whole debacle happened at Michigan. Now comes the $60 million fine, by the NCAA, again without any investigation. And, just like the current situation, the $60 million is going into a fund to support charities of abused and neglected kids.

There is a very high probability that the Second Mile organization would have reaped millions of dollars in donations from that fund, enabling predators like Sandusky to groom more and more kids. Seriously just scary.

I'm beginning to think that charities involving children need serious oversight, including regular interviews of the children they support.