Who will run in 2012

[SB Shock]

http://news.yahoo.com/lawyer-cain-ac...025045050.html Herman Herman hes our man:pirate:

So what I get is there is a confidentiality agreement involving organizations other than the women and cain - so it would be fair to say the attack on Cain that he won't come clean really have no merit since he can't say anything without violating such agreement.

2nd NPR is running a story that a lawyer for an another party are arguing that cain has violated the agreement by saying there is one

The lawyer for a woman who settled a sexual harassment complaint against Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain in the late 1990s says that Cain may have violated the confidentiality terms of the agreement by commenting on its specifics over the past 24 hours.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2011/11/01/141907744/lawyer-cain-may-have-violated-confidentiality-of-harassment-settlement

I kind of find it interesting that this is even a story, especially in left wing media because if I recall the democrats said it didn't matter with Bill clinton in private and all of his allegations of sexual harassment

1. Paula Jones - Clinton settled for 850,000
2. Kathleen Wiley - who alleged she was sexually assaulted
3. Juanita Broderick
4. Sally Perdue - who was threatened if she revealed her one night stand with bill "they knew that I went jogging by myself and he couldn't guarantee what would happen to my pretty little legs"

So was Clinton a bad guy?

Now there is the story coming out of the 99% who are trying to repress the stories of sexual assaults.

Efforts by the Occupy Baltimore protest group to evolve into a self-contained, self-governing community have erupted into controversy with the distribution of a pamphlet that victim advocates and health workers fear discourages victims of sexual assaults from contacting police.

The pamphlet says that members of the protest group who believe they are victims or who suspect sexual abuse "are encouraged to immediately report the incident to the Security Committee," which will investigate and "supply the abuser with counseling resources."

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-occupy-baltimore-rape-20111019,0,3542147.story

[kcshocker11]

Sorry SB aint just the left wing media-As you all have stated many times character does matter. Who knows maybe theres nothing to it. I truely hope he's the GOP's candidate

[SB Shock]

Sorry SB aint just the left wing media-As you all have stated many times character does matter. Who knows maybe theres nothing to it. I truely hope he's the GOP's candidate

Oh, I agree. Character does matter also. Don't mistake me for a Cain supporter. I just find it interesting some people find that character matter for some, but not others.

[ShockTalk]

I'm always amazed at the number of politicians who think these things will never come up or come up too late to make a difference. Their initial reaction is total surprise as if they had totally forgotten about it. I'm not stating there is guilt here on Cain's part. Accusations in sexual harrasment can be blown out of proportion or very real, but as @Maggie: stated, the settlement amounts we've heard about are somewhat low as to indicate that it was cheaper to settle than fight and that the accusors were happy with that.

Just an opinion, but I would be in the camp that says the Right more than likely leaked this about Cain (or neither Right or Left, it was just found by someone who did no counseling with either party). The Left would have waited until it would have given them the biggest advantage.

[Maggie]

http://news.yahoo.com/lawyer-cain-ac...025045050.html Herman Herman hes our man:pirate:

Because I was curious, I looked up Joel P. Bennett, Esq. the D.C. attorney that represents one of the women. It appears that Bennett is a solo practitioner who previously worked at a small D.C. firm Stein, Mitchell & Mezines that I believe is now Stein, Mitchell & Muse. The Stein firm is a plaintiffs firm (with a bit of criminal defense) – personal injury, med-mal, etc. seem to be the bulk of its practice. The interesting thing about the Stein firm is that there are no associates listed on its website (although Martindale lists one associate), which is very odd because it makes for a top-heavy firm. Obviously, I have no idea what the Stein firm was like when Bennett was employed there, he left in 1976; however, I assume it was even smaller.

I scanned the article and I don’t believe it mentions what Bennett’s client settled for – but the other woman settled for nuisance value, $35K is nothing. Bennett does practice labor law and employment law so I am assuming after over 30 years is reasonably competent – like I wrote before if his client’s settlement is somewhere in the five figure range that suggests that he didn’t have much of a case.

[1979Shocker]

Koch-backed group confirms financial ties to Cain campaign manager
By NBC's Michael Isikoff

A major conservative advocacy group, funded by Koch family oil interests, says it is reviewing its "financial dealings" with a Wisconsin charity headed by Herman Cain's campaign manager, raising fresh questions about the source of tens of thousands of dollars in funds that were used to pay expenses for Cain's presidential campaign.

The Center for Public Integrity reported late Thrusday [sic] that Americans for Prosperty, one of the largest and most prominent of conservative political groups, has confirmed unspecified financial transactions with two closely linked Wisconsin non-profits -- Prosperity USA and Wisconsin Prosperity Network -- that were founded by Mark Block, Cain's campaign manager.

One of those groups, Prosperity USA, paid for $37,000 in expenses, including iPads, charter flights and items, for Cain's presidential campaign, according to financial documents disclosed this week by the Milwaukee-Wisconsin Journal Sentinel.

Non-profits are barred by law from paying for campaign expenses, and when the allegations first surfaced this week -- at the same time as the sexual harassment charges against the presidential candidate -- Cain said he would order an investigation of whether there were improper campaign violations.

[wu_shizzle]

No secrecy here, Herman Cain is Charles Koch's brother: Link

[SB Shock]

No secrecy here, Herman Cain is Charles Koch's brother: Link

LOL, the media is giving what he couldn't have gotten any other way.

You know I think this guy pisses the mainstream media and politicians off because they don't believe he belongs because he has not paid his "due" (for politicians) or sucked up enough (for the media) and they attack, attack - and then he just ignores them which just infuriates them even more.

[kcshocker11]

LOL, the media is giving what he couldn't have gotten any other way.

You know I think this guy pisses the mainstream media and politicians off because they don't believe he belongs because he has not paid his "due" (for politicians) or sucked up enough (for the media) and they attack, attack - and then he just ignores them which just infuriates them even more.

Well if China gets nukes I'm a believer:glee::pirate:

[SubGod22]

Back to Bush's Big-Government Conservatism

In the wake of the disastrous Bush presidency and the Republican defeats of 2006 and 2008, it was widely assumed that the GOP had repudiated the idea that big government could be harnessed for conservative ends. And, of course, in 2010, the Tea Party led a return to conservatism's traditional small-government roots, resulting in the biggest Republican landslide in 70 years. One would think that settled the matter. Yet, just five weeks out from the Iowa caucuses, both of the front-runners for the Republican nomination are strong advocates for a bigger, more activist government. Obviously, everything is relative. Neither Mitt Romney nor Newt Gingrich represents the sort of income-redistributing welfare state embodied by the Obama administration. But neither are they a threat to truly cut back the size, cost, and intrusiveness of the federal government.

But for those with a yearning for a smaller, more limited, more constitutional government, this election becomes more dismal with each passing day.

[60Shock]

Unless it soon comes out that Gingrich is having an affair with Romney or vice versa, it looks like they will be the two Republicans last standing. I'm not personally wild about either. Both have their good and bad points.

Obama is so beatable and yet the Republicans have been unable to field a single person who stands out head and shoulders above the crowd. The only thing that really matters is to select the one individual who has the best chance to overthrow Obama.

[wu_shizzle]

Maybe Marco Rubio or Rand Paul could bring some excitement as VP picks.

[60Shock]

Rubio would be an excellent VP candidate as he is young, attractive, speaks well, and Hispanic. He just might very well be what the Republicans need to beat Obama. However, he has stated that he has no interest in the VP position, which of course can change at a moments notice.

Besides, he is already being groomed by his party for bigger and better things come 2016 or 2020, depending on who wins the 2012 election. And apparently the power brokers think this can better be accomplished by gaining the experience he needs by remaining as a United States Senator rather than being tucked away as the VP.

[SubGod22]

Rubio doesn't need his name tarnished by being associated with anyone running this time around. He's better off where he's at right now.

[ShockTalk]

Rubio doesn't need his name tarnished by being associated with anyone running this time around. He's better off where he's at right now.

Sad, but true.