Healthcare Hypocricy?

[WuDrWu]

May God help us.


That may be the single most scary thing I have seen.....and I've seen some scary things.

[SubGod22]

Have I mentioned I'm worried?

[SubGod22]

Senators looking to tax soda to help fund health-care

[SubGod22]

Obama's healthcare numbes don't add up

[1979Shocker]

Senators looking to tax soda to help fund health-care

Since I don't drink soda, they can tax it all they want. They can also tax cigarettes and coffee all the want too, since I don't use those either.

[Maggie]

Good article:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124208383695408513.html

[SubGod22]

Baucus: Tax Hikes Likely to Pay for Healthcare

[SubGod22]

Tax Healthcare to Pay for Healthcare?

[Maggie]

Someone, I don’t care who, needs to be out there explaining how this proposed mess will actually affect the “average person”.

I am at a complete loss as to why everyone seems to think it would be a good idea (by which I mean the “average person” – I know why certain political leaders are ideologically predisposed to favor this) to enact legislation that would ultimately create a healthcare system similar to those of, say, Canada or the UK. For a moment forget about the increased costs (taxes, etc.) which will be unsustainable and explain to me why my quality of care will rise as a result of nationalized healthcare – which despite disingenuous rhetoric to the contrary I will ultimately be compelled to take part in.

This is a pretty good discussion:

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MmYwNjgyMDQ0NWMxZTdhZmZkNzY4ZjcwMTUyMmI1ZDY=

Yes, I am very concerned. And, yes, I am spitting bullets. :rant:

[SubGod22]

Pelosi Promises Huge Health Care Bill by August :banghead:

[Maggie]

Industry reps offer $2 trillion in health savings

WASHINGTON - Top representatives of the health care industry plan to offer $2 trillion in cost reductions over 10 years in a bid to help pass President Barack Obama's health overhaul, a source familiar with the negotiations said Sunday.

Industry officials representing health insurers, hospitals, doctors, drug makers and a major labor union plan to be at White House on Monday to present the offer.

Not that this announcement represented the “game changer” the Administration claimed it was (even if true) but now it seems everyone is confused about what was actually discussed:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/15/health/policy/15health.html?_r=1&ref=politics

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/22559.html

At first glance it seemed evident that the “savings” the Administration claimed would take place (which, of course, would magically pay for whatever proposed healthcare plan they decide on – the specifics of which have not released for public consumption) would come from purported attempts to reduce the rate of growth of costs, not actual savings. In other words, in order to sell whatever the Administration and the Democrats in Congress come up with they seem to believe it is necessary that the cost of the plan together with the other obvious and less than desirable by-products of government run health insurance be obscured by promoting imaginary cost cutting measures.

The fact that some of these industry representatives are backing off a bit is a good sign (but perhaps they should consider recording their conversations with the President). In any event, Congress and the Administration are going to have to come clean, at some point, on exactly what they want to do, how they propose to pay for it and convince people why it would be an improvement over the current system (which will be difficult because everywhere else this has been attempted it has been an epic failure).

[SubGod22]

everywhere else this has been attempted it has been an epic failure

:yes:

[SubGod22]

Looks like the majority of Americans aren't willing to pay more so others can have gov't healthcare.

[SubGod22]

Obama's 'Public' Health Plan Will Bankrupt the Nation

70% of Insured Rate Health Insurance Coverage As Good or Excellent

[kcshocker11]

Obama's 'Public' Health Plan Will Bankrupt the Nation

70% of Insured Rate Health Insurance Coverage As Good or Excellent

Lets see 50 mil no insurance and climbing leaving 250 mil with at 30% not happy thats 75 mil or just 125 mil unhappy or no insurance. Thats impressive. Id call that Sicko! Yes you are right about Obamas plan, time to let single payer advocates to the table 8)

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