RNC - The Land

[Play Angry]

This is so bizarre. Trump's delivery of the speech is effective, but he isn't even waiting until tomorrow morning to pivot overtly to a bear hug of social liberalism to go with his 1980s democrat trade and tariffs platform and reneging of NATO obligations.

Law and order law and order law and order law and order illegal immigrants are murderers law and order law and order wall wall wall law and order more immigrant murder law and order law and order a little more murder law and order law and order Hillary is satan law and order law and order law and order no seriously i said satan law and order law and order law and order wall wall wall law and order is apparently enough to overlook anything though.

Really a marvel of modern politics. He is shifting like 40% of Republican ideology in a single cycle and his legion of enthusiasts are generally either oblivious or just don't care. Remarkable.

This year is such a big moment if you are a history nerd. I don't like it, but there is no denying its significance.

[Aargh]

This is so bizarre. Trump's delivery of the speech is effective, but he isn't even waiting until tomorrow morning to pivot overtly to a bear hug of social liberalism to go with his 1980s democrat trade and tariffs platform and reneging of NATO obligations.

Law and order law and order law and order law and order illegal immigrants are murderers law and order law and order wall wall wall law and order more immigrant murder law and order law and order a little more murder law and order law and order Hillary is satan law and order law and order law and order no seriously i said satan law and order law and order law and order wall wall wall law and order is apparently enough to overlook anything though.

Really a marvel of modern politics. He is shifting like 40% of Republican ideology in a single cycle and his legion of enthusiasts are generally either oblivious or just don't care. Remarkable.

This year is such a big moment if you are a history nerd. I don't like it, but there is no denying its significance.

The Libertarian and Tea Party attempted takeover of the Republican Party is not working out well. Cruz was the poster child for that faction of the party, and now he's disgraced and booed by what was supposed to be "his" party.

Meanwhile the Republican voters supported Trump, who is far, far removed from Libertarian/Tea Party agenda. There are a number of Tea Party/Libertarian governors whose popularity is low after they enacted state-level legislation that supported their agenda. Brownback and Jindal aren't delivering votes for Republican candidates, and that's national, not just in the states they've governed.

See my post about 3 up from yours. The RNC moved further right than their constituency wanted to go. ALEC, with it's rather radical agenda, isn't helping bring the Republican party back together.

[shox1989]

Wow. That was about 90 minutes of my life that I wasted. If Trump is today's Republican Party, I guess I am no longer a Republican. That was such a dark, big government, authoritarian speech. I don't think Trump used the word Liberty or Freedom once. The guy's personality has scared me for a long time, but now his agenda may scare me as much too.

[shox1989]

This is so bizarre. Trump's delivery of the speech is effective, but he isn't even waiting until tomorrow morning to pivot overtly to a bear hug of social liberalism to go with his 1980s democrat trade and tariffs platform and reneging of NATO obligations.

Law and order law and order law and order law and order illegal immigrants are murderers law and order law and order wall wall wall law and order more immigrant murder law and order law and order a little more murder law and order law and order Hillary is satan law and order law and order law and order no seriously i said satan law and order law and order law and order wall wall wall law and order is apparently enough to overlook anything though.

Really a marvel of modern politics. He is shifting like 40% of Republican ideology in a single cycle and his legion of enthusiasts are generally either oblivious or just don't care. Remarkable.

This year is such a big moment if you are a history nerd. I don't like it, but there is no denying its significance.

I felt like the Republican Party I knew, just died tonight in that room.

[Anthroshock]

I can't see how building a 2000 mile border wall, deporting 11 million people, and completely "banning" an entire religious group fits with traditional conservative republican values. How can one maintain small government and implement these plans?

[wufan]

I can't see how building a 2000 mile border wall, deporting 11 million people, and completely "banning" an entire religious group fits with traditional conservative republican values. How can one maintain small government and implement these plans?

Protecting our border is one of the few federal government responsibilities. I'm not saying I'm for it, but it fits in well with small gov/large military republicans.

[Play Angry]

lol at the small gov part unless you think senor Nieto is gonna foot the bill. It would be the biggest Keynesian single project in history.

[DwShock]

That was the least motivated I've felt after a convention acceptance speech in my lifetime. I enjoyed the previous three days speeches but last night was a total let down. Usually after the big speech I am motivated to go and proclaim my full support for the candidate no matter how much I wasn't fully supportive of them. After last night I am having an internal battle on this major decision. I cannot and will not support Hillary Clinton but Trump just doesn't motivate me. Maybe that will change but he has plenty of ideas I'm not supportive of.

It's 2016 and my parties candidate doesn't make me feel much better about things then old Barry. Oh well what it's we have to deal with.

[shockmonster]

Thank you for posting the links to these videos. I got a far better impression of Ted Cruz from these videos than was portrayed by the media (although the videos were provided by CNN, so I guess if I had watched it live on CNN, I would have also got this same impression). I will also say that the later reports that the Texas Delegation was essentially ready to dump Cruz were greatly exaggerated.

This sentence and link came from our Wichita Eagle from Kansas delegates. It sounds like the anger from Texas and most other conventioneers may have been real although I'm sure that not everyone agreed. This scenario may have ended Cruz's future opportunities in the future GOP. He was probably justified, but people have a long memory when they believe in something.

"Whitmer said he was sitting next to the Texas delegation during Cruz’s speech “and they were livid when his speech ended.”

Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/news/politics-...#storylink=cpy

[shockmonster]

It used to be that the coalition of people who made up the Republican Party agreed on enough things that differed from Democrat Party views (pro guns, anti-abortion, pro law enforcement, Federalism or states power instead of federal power, less regulation of business, lower taxes, pro military support-protection of the country, etc.) that they saw the necessity of sticking together. With the growth of minorities (mainly Hispanics), the Republican Party doesn't have very much of a cushion. When the coalition disintegrates, the Democrats win. With the coalition splintering, the Conservative wing, Libertarian wing, and evangelical wing ALL lose (as does the Republican Party).

[shocka khan]

This sentence and link came from our Wichita Eagle from Kansas delegates. It sounds like the anger from Texas and most other conventioneers may have been real although I'm sure that not everyone agreed. This scenario may have ended Cruz's future opportunities in the future GOP. He was probably justified, but people have a long memory when they believe in something.

"Whitmer said he was sitting next to the Texas delegation during Cruz’s speech “and they were livid when his speech ended.”

Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/news/politics-...#storylink=cpy

Not everyone needs to agree. If his democrat opponent polled 40% or so in the last election (and he was also forced into a run-off during the primary), Cruz ought to be concerned about optics. If he can't get re-elected in 2018, he will be toast for 2020.

I'm expecting that there will be a creditable candidate brought forward and Cruz will be in a fight for his life during the primary. As for the general, the dems are weak in Texas, so I'm not expecting that they can find a candidate with enough statewide pull to beat him, but at the rate he is going, perhaps not.

He has never been good at trying to build coalitions and unite people. He has united the people who back him, but some of his actions has turned at least some of the population of backers against him.

He has to do a better job at bringing people together or he may well get defeated in the 2018 republican senatorial primary. Whether that happens or not depends solely on whether he can reinvent himself.

[shockmonster]

Not everyone needs to agree. If his democrat opponent polled 40% or so in the last election (and he was also forced into a run-off during the primary), Cruz ought to be concerned about optics. If he can't get re-elected in 2018, he will be toast for 2020. Didn't

I'm expecting that there will be a creditable candidate brought forward and Cruz will be in a fight for his life during the primary. As for the general, the dems are weak in Texas, so I'm not expecting that they can find a candidate with enough statewide pull to beat him, but at the rate he is going, perhaps not.

He has never been good at trying to build coalitions and unite people. He has united the people who back him, but some of his actions has turned at least some of the population of backers against him.

He has to do a better job at bringing people together or he may well get defeated in the 2018 republican senatorial primary. Whether that happens or not depends solely on whether he can reinvent himself.

My comment was in response to someone who thought that the media had hyperbolized that the Texas delegation was unhappy with Cruz that he failed to endorse Trump. My point was that Republican delegates from Kansas also verified that a good portion of the Texas delegation was unhappy with Cruz. The media did not create this narrative after all.

[SB Shock]

socialist party 1 convention - complete
socialist patry 2 convention - up next

[Kung Wu]

socialist party 1 convention - complete
socialist patry 2 convention - up next

Funny! But realistically it's the:

Slightly right of center and frustratingly too moderate party convention - complete
Slightly right of socialist but still scary bad liberal party convention - up next

[Aargh]

If you look at demographics, Sanders seems to have been the candidate of choice among younger voters. Hillary and the Republicans were weak in the lower age group of voters.

The economuy is not producing good-paying jobs at a rate equal to the number of people in low-paying jobs who have the desire, ability, and resources to move into higher-paying jobs. That especially affects those coming out of high school and college. Those voters are going to be around a very long time. They're endorsing a Socialist agenda.