RNC - The Land

[shockmonster]

It's twisting scripture to equate the government confiscating taxes and dolling out welfare with the commandment to the Christian to look out for their neighbor's physical, mental, emotional and spiritual needs. The Acts of the Apostles and other NT passages go into great detail on how the church can and should meet the needs of their community.

You obviously are not a Ronald Reagan Big Tent Republican who accepts differing views. While Reagan was a principled Republican on key issues, he was more concerned that our government continue in a direction pointing winning public opinion and elections than that everyone in the Republican Party agree. Kasich was a in the leader Contract with America whose main goal and success was to a "Balanced Budget".

You act like all Conservatives/Republicans should be in lock step and agree on all issues. I know a lot of people who don't fit your narrative and increasingly don't feel welcome in either party. I know some very conservative people who are concerned about Obama Care but they live in a rural community and their hospital is at risk. Brownback has no answers for them. Without all possible votes, and some willingness to give and take, the Democrats win. I also know a good number of conservatives who don't believe as you do that government should totally abdicate it's role to help in the care for the needy of those who have no where else to turn (elderly, extreme special needs, drug babies, abused mothers, abused children, etc.). Our state government seems to care more about helping with corporate and government welfare that the "least of these". The church does not have the resources to take care of all of the needs of these peoples.

[wu_shizzle]

You obviously are not a Ronald Reagan Big Tent Republican who accepts differing views.

HAHAHA.

You are correct! I would more likely align with the Libertarian Party than the RNC.

[jdshock]

How does one choose from between a democrat and a libertarian, exactly? They are literally ideological polar opposites on almost every issue.

I don't understand this. Everything I've ever seen classifies libertarians as a mix of the two. Here's a representative chart, for example. https://millennialjournal.files.word...ey-collage.jpg (the image was huge when I copied it in, so I'm just leaving the url).

Liberals tend to support social freedoms and government control in economic areas. Conservatives tend to support government regulation of moral issues and less government control in economic areas. At least according to my understanding. How does your interpretation of libertarianism differ?

[shocka khan]

T stands for Texas and Trouble.

And meanwhile, back in Texas.......

Looks like there's problems. Cruz was not well received at the Texas delegation breakfast this morning and there were a number of angry confrontations between Cruz and Trump supporters.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/22/us/politics/ted-cruz-rnc.html?_r=0

They're saying the same things about him that I am.....two-faced hypocrite. I'm not sure that Texas has the market cornered on IQ, but I would bet he gets primaried in the next election. It will be interesting to see what happens.

Y'all should have done that with Brownback. Why let a lousy politician that shows incompetence (once you have elected him) drag your party standing down?

[wu_shizzle]

And meanwhile, back in Texas.......

Looks like there's problems. Cruz was not well received at the Texas delegation breakfast this morning and there were a number of angry confrontations between Cruz and Trump supporters.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/22/us/politics/ted-cruz-rnc.html?_r=0

They're saying the same things about him that I am.....two-faced hypocrite. I'm not sure that Texas has the market cornered on IQ, but I would bet he gets primaried in the next election. It will be interesting to see what happens.

Y'all should have done that with Brownback. Why let a lousy politician that shows incompetence (once you have elected him) drag your party standing down?

Did you watch it live?

Cruz did an excellent job with those who had criticisms, and his speech was phenomenal.

[RoyalShock]

And meanwhile, back in Texas.......

Looks like there's problems. Cruz was not well received at the Texas delegation breakfast this morning and there were a number of angry confrontations between Cruz and Trump supporters.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/22/us/politics/ted-cruz-rnc.html?_r=0

They're saying the same things about him that I am.....two-faced hypocrite. I'm not sure that Texas has the market cornered on IQ, but I would bet he gets primaried in the next election. It will be interesting to see what happens.

Y'all should have done that with Brownback. Why let a lousy politician that shows incompetence (once you have elected him) drag your party standing down?

So you wouldn't watch any of the unedited video I linked to earlier, but came back to report a NYTimes piece with selected quotes and a little over a minute of video?

You may not like Ted Cruz, and that's fine. Whatever. But "team players", when it comes to party, is not good for the long-term health of the party or the country. Both parties have become fascist in nature. Dissent and civil debate (unwelcome concepts at party conventions) is what we need more of. Those who were saying "sit down", or "endorse him" or holding "Clinton-Cruz 2020" signs are the ones helping to push the country's wagon off a cliff. All in my opinion, of course.

[shocka khan]

So you wouldn't watch any of the unedited video I linked to earlier, but came back to report a NYTimes piece with selected quotes and a little over a minute of video?

You may not like Ted Cruz, and that's fine. Whatever. But "team players", when it comes to party, is not good for the long-term health of the party or the country. Both parties have become fascist in nature. Dissent and civil debate (unwelcome concepts at party conventions) is what we need more of. Those who were saying "sit down", or "endorse him" or holding "Clinton-Cruz 2020" signs are the ones helping to push the country's wagon off a cliff. All in my opinion, of course.

Hold your fire, Pardner. I didn't watch the video clip on that link, either. It takes me 2 minutes or so to read an article. I do not normally watch.videos, most of them have commercials at the front and many of them are 5 and even 10 minutes long. Why spend the time wasting 10 minutes watching something that I can get a big-picture gist of in 2-3 minutes.

Channel 11 went to a local bar-b-que joint in Richmond and according to the reporter, most of the people they talked to did not appreciate it, either. The only people who seem to be real happy about it are die-hard Cruz supporters. That could cause him problems in Texas when he stands for re-election in 2018, as his supporters may not be enough t guarantee his reelection .

[tropicalshox]

Alex Jones and Roger Stone just crashed The Young Turks live set at the RNC. It almost came to blows.

[1972Shocker]

More copying. This may be the real scandal of the Republican Convention:

[Play Angry]

Peter Thiel's speech should be interesting if the CNN leaks are true.

[shockmonster]

HAHAHA.

You are correct! I would more likely align with the Libertarian Party than the RNC.

Libertarians have for quite a long time been a wing of the Republican Party. With this coalition in the 90s, taxes were often lowered, there was welfare reform , the federal defecit was zero, etc. There are still some libertarians in the Rep. Party (didn't one run for President this year?). Only since the Rep. Party coalition has been split has the Democrat Party flourished with Obama care, advances of illegals into the welfare system, unlimited unemployment income, and shortly the SCOTUS being dominated by Dems which will allow open borders,=etc.

[Play Angry]

Charles Koch's op-ed in today's Wall Street Journal is worth a read for the stark contrast in tone to this evening's main event speaker.

[shox1989]

Here are a series of videos of Cruz addressing the Texas delegation this morning, first addressing the speech last night, then the full Q&A.

http://therightscoop.com/watch-ted-c...ch-last-night/

Thank you for posting the links to these videos. I got a far better impression of Ted Cruz from these videos than was portrayed by the media (although the videos were provided by CNN, so I guess if I had watched it live on CNN, I would have also got this same impression). I will also say that the later reports that the Texas Delegation was essentially ready to dump Cruz were greatly exaggerated.

[Aargh]

The Libertarian and Tea Party attempted takeover of the Republican Party is not working out well. Cruz was the poster child for that faction of the party, and now he's disgraced and booed by what was supposed to be "his" party.

Meanwhile the Republican voters supported Trump, who is far, far removed from Libertarian/Tea Party agenda. There are a number of Tea Party/Libertarian governors whose popularity is low after they enacted state-level legislation that supported their agenda. Brownback and Jindal aren't delivering votes for Republican candidates, and that's national, not just in the states they've governed.

[wufan]

I don't understand this. Everything I've ever seen classifies libertarians as a mix of the two. Here's a representative chart, for example. https://millennialjournal.files.word...ey-collage.jpg (the image was huge when I copied it in, so I'm just leaving the url).

Liberals tend to support social freedoms and government control in economic areas. Conservatives tend to support government regulation of moral issues and less government control in economic areas. At least according to my understanding. How does your interpretation of libertarianism differ?

I think in the chart provided that current liberals want to shame people for opposing view on moral autonomy (you think being gay is wrong...shame on you) and to legislate that view. Conservatives have a similar view in legislating toward moral Judea-Christian views (marriage is between man and woman). My libertarian perspective is that there is NO place for moral legislation. This might be different if the libertarians were in power.