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  • #31
    Who fed Rubio the false intel that ISIS is now the predominant Muslim group in Benghazi?
    Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post
      Who fed Hillary intel about "the video tape" that caused Benghazi?
      Who fed Hillary that giant salami?

      Trick question, she only eats red snapper, bearded clam and tuna.
      There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.

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      • #33
        Who fed intel to Obama that ISIS was contained, hours before Paris was attacked?
        Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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        • #34
          Bad news for Dems in swing state of Colorado. Not a huge surprise as Colorado has (astonishingly to me at least) been trending red for a couple of election cycles now.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post
            Bad news for Dems in swing state of Colorado. Not a huge surprise as Colorado has (astonishingly to me at least) been trending red for a couple of election cycles now.
            Wow, I would have guessed completely the opposite.
            Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post
              Wow, I would have guessed completely the opposite.
              I know right? I guess the libs got their weed and now they're too relaxed to fight the good fight.

              Anything can change, but the map is pretty simple right now. The GOP have to flip Florida and Ohio (would Rubio/Kasich make that a done deal?). Not based on this latest poll, I think the Dems have lost CO unless the GOP screws up massively (still a very real possibility).

              That puts the GOP at 262 (assuming they hold NC and MO which is likely). They'll need 8 and the Dems will be hard pressed to keep Iowa imho. That makes it 270-268 if my math is correct.

              VA, WI, NH, NV would be left. The GOP would have to flip any 1 of those 4. I realize I'm making a lot of rose colored glasses assumptions in favor of my lean.

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              • #37
                Bush would have an easier time winning Florida than Rubio.
                In the fast lane

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post
                  I know right? I guess the libs got their weed and now they're too relaxed to fight the good fight.

                  Anything can change, but the map is pretty simple right now. The GOP have to flip Florida and Ohio (would Rubio/Kasich make that a done deal?). Not based on this latest poll, I think the Dems have lost CO unless the GOP screws up massively (still a very real possibility).

                  That puts the GOP at 262 (assuming they hold NC and MO which is likely). They'll need 8 and the Dems will be hard pressed to keep Iowa imho. That makes it 270-268 if my math is correct.

                  VA, WI, NH, NV would be left. The GOP would have to flip any 1 of those 4. I realize I'm making a lot of rose colored glasses assumptions in favor of my lean.
                  Whoa, you're all over this. What's the temperature in Ohio and Florida specifically at the moment?
                  Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by MoValley John View Post
                    Who does? Other than Hillary, whom I can't support, do you see as having any foriegn policy background? Not Bernie, not Donald, not Cruz or Forina. Obama had zero foreign policy experience, neither did W. You can add Clinton, Reagan, Carter, Ford and Nixon to the list. Johnson didn't have any, either. So, since the end of WW2, we have Ike, maybe a little experience in Kennedy, but that's a stretch, and then George, HW Bush. The rest came with little to no foreign policy experience, none.
                    Other than Reagan, I'm not sure there's one person on that list you just made that I would say did a particularly good job with foreign policy.

                    I shouldn't have used the phrase "foreign policy experience" -- I actually just meant knowledge of the world in general. Among the Republican candidates, I believe Ben Carson comes off as the least knowledgeable about world affairs, perhaps even beyond Trump. And it scares me that Clarridge is the person teaching him.
                    Originally posted by BleacherReport
                    Fred VanVleet on Shockers' 3-Pt Shooting Confidence -- ' Honestly, I just tell these guys to let their nuts hang.'

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post
                      Who fed intel to Obama that ISIS was contained, hours before Paris was attacked?
                      I know you're being argumentative, but I'm coming to blame Paris less on ISIS than on Europe's relationship with Muslims in general.

                      There is a long, long trend of European-born Muslims planning or successfully conducting terrorist attacks against Western targets now. We're just playing whack-a-mole with individual terrorist organizations. ISIS is just the name they're throwing onto their general anger now.

                      When we inevitably smash ISIS into dust, and we will, there will still be terrorist attacks in Europe conducted by European-born Muslims, and they'll just throw a new name on who is behind it. It's bigger than ISIS.
                      Originally posted by BleacherReport
                      Fred VanVleet on Shockers' 3-Pt Shooting Confidence -- ' Honestly, I just tell these guys to let their nuts hang.'

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Rlh04d View Post
                        I know you're being argumentative, but I'm coming to blame Paris less on ISIS than on Europe's relationship with Muslims in general.

                        There is a long, long trend of European-born Muslims planning or successfully conducting terrorist attacks against Western targets now. We're just playing whack-a-mole with individual terrorist organizations. ISIS is just the name they're throwing onto their general anger now.

                        When we inevitably smash ISIS into dust, and we will, there will still be terrorist attacks in Europe conducted by European-born Muslims, and they'll just throw a new name on who is behind it. It's bigger than ISIS.
                        Whack-a-mole! Lol
                        Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Rlh04d View Post
                          Other than Reagan, I'm not sure there's one person on that list you just made that I would say did a particularly good job with foreign policy.

                          I shouldn't have used the phrase "foreign policy experience" -- I actually just meant knowledge of the world in general. Among the Republican candidates, I believe Ben Carson comes off as the least knowledgeable about world affairs, perhaps even beyond Trump. And it scares me that Clarridge is the person teaching him.
                          In a way, you just stated my point. I am less concerned with what the candidates currently know about the international situation, and more concerned with what they will do with intelligence once they actually have access to it.

                          So a candidate espoused some faulty intel, they all currently have faulty intel. They are now all in "Who knows the most names of foreign leaders" mode. Who cares? I really want to know what they will do when presented with a real crisis. I want to know what each candidate will do when the CIA informs them, as president, that there is a coup attempt going to take place in Burma. I'm less concerned that a candidate, with little to no classified intel, mistakenly understands China's presence in Africa as economic or military. In reality, it's probably a little of both.
                          There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.

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                          • #43
                            Is Burma even a place anymore? I know there are pythons from Burma, but I think the coup already took place. See what I mean?
                            There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.

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                            • #45
                              Crap. Now we have to rename this:

                              Myanese python?
                              Myanmarese python?
                              Big ****ing python?
                              There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.

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