Benghazi Hearing

[pinstripers]

Actually no I wouldnt, per reasons outlined by foreign policy experts in the article. Hell watergate only had 2 congressional hearings and Iran Countra I believe only 1. As I said from the beginning foreign service can be dangerous, it goes with the job.

those hearings were different in that all members of the panel were trying to find the truth

[SB Shock]

At this point, what difference does it make?

[pinstripers]

All my lib friends say, "so, a politician who lies. Big deal."

[shocka khan]

Here's some thought leadership: The Democrat party has no alternative to Hillary Clinton. She has a monopoly on Democrat national leadership, sink or swim. The hope of the Progressive movement in America resides in the embodiment of what is wrong with establishment politics in Washington.

How do you like your chances?

http://thefederalist.com/2015/10/23/...for-democrats/

Not my choices. I don't like Hillary. I'd like to see someone with new ideas and fresh ideas that has put some time into their research and go
forward. Anyone can point the uselessly stupid studies our government funds daily, whether democrat or republican

Maybe I'm pining for something I can't have, but the Republican Party needs to update their schtick. Pointing out obvious government waste in order to make the statement 'so what the ther guys do it too' does not inspire or motivate me.

Reagan had a vision. Unfortunately, today's Republican Party doesn't.

[SB Shock]

she couldn't recall anything anyway - so it become much like the translation of San Diego - it was lost hundreds of years ago.

[wufan]

Whale's Vagina.

[shocka khan]

she couldn't recall anything anyway - so it become much like the translation of San Diego - it was lost hundreds of years ago.

I'm not trying to defend her, but how many times did you hear 'I can't remember' yesterday. I watched the first half of the hearing. I didn't hear that response very many times

[wu_shizzle]

Kung Wu, I don't completely disagree, but I do worry (as someone who can't stand Hillary) that many of the "undecided, independent, could go either way" types will see all this and more often than not side with Hillary. I think people who don't really care either way are more likely to say, "well, that was a waste of time" and blame the Republicans for putting on a show. It is the reality you face when making a big accusation. If you don't make a strong case, people who claim to be neutral on the issue get a negative feeling about you "crying wolf", so to speak.

Look at the support for non-traditional candidates like Bernie Sanders, Ben Carson, Trump and Fiorina. There is a strong desire by those who don't follow politics closely to look outside the system. That doesn't bode well for Hillary Clinton with the "Moderates and "Undecideds".

The worst thing for Hillary right now is not to be caught in obvious lies, but to be the poster child for establishment Washington politics that makes international diplomacy into a financial racket.

[SB Shock]

I'm not trying to defend her, but how many times did you hear 'I can't remember' yesterday. I watched the first half of the hearing. I didn't hear that response very many times

I don't recall.

[jdshock]

Look at the support for non-traditional candidates like Bernie Sanders, Ben Carson, Trump and Fiorina. There is a strong desire by those who don't follow politics closely to look outside the system. That doesn't bode well for Hillary Clinton with the "Moderates and "Undecideds".

The worst thing for Hillary right now is not to be caught in obvious lies, but to be the poster child for establishment Washington politics that makes international diplomacy into a financial racket.

Not necessarily arguing, but why do you lump Bernie Sanders in as a non-traditional candidate? He certainly isn't as much of an outsider as Carson, Trump, or Fiorina. Is it because of his political stances?

[Kung Wu]

I can't agree with that. There are those who are solidly in one camp or the other. Those people wouldn't be swayed by anything. There are some who lean one way or another. There are some voters who are truly undecided.

I think the Repubs lost ground with those who are leaning and those who are undecided. Clinton was basically given 11 hours of air time at a cost of nearly $5 mill paid for by the government.

The American public has been lied to by politicians so often, so frequently, and for such a long time that nobody really cares if a politician lies. That's normal.

To me, it looked more like the Committee was trying to get her to say something that could be used against her rather than actually trying to investigate how 4 lives were lost. I might point out that I am not a fan of Hillary. Not at all.

For a public now accustomed to political debates and naming winners and losers, Hillary won the debate that was framed as an investigation.

But very few people were watching that are not in one camp or the other. They are just waiting for their 30 second headlines to come up so that they can be told how it turned out by an "objective journalist". Can someone on here dump the viewer audience ratings for the broadcast?

[wu_shizzle]

Not necessarily arguing, but why do you lump Bernie Sanders in as a non-traditional candidate? He certainly isn't as much of an outsider as Carson, Trump, or Fiorina. Is it because of his political stances?

Absolutely. He's honest about his Socialist ideologies and isn't a part of the DNC machine.

Up until recently he was an Independent who just caucused with the Democrats.

[RoyalShock]

Absolutely. He's honest about his Socialist ideologies and isn't a part of the DNC machine.

Up until recently he was an Independent who just caucused with the Democrats.

So, it sounds like he will call or align himself with whatever label/group he thinks can get him elected?

Sounds sincere and trustworthy to me.

Oh, and I saw a yellow pickup in the main WSU lot last night decorated with WSU stuff, and a Bernie 2016 sticker. Ugh.

[wu_shizzle]

So, it sounds like he will call or align himself with whatever label/group he thinks can get him elected?

Sounds sincere and trustworthy to me.

I'm a fan of the Pauls, and don't think they don't do this too.

[shocka khan]

Here's some thought leadership: The Democrat party has no alternative to Hillary Clinton. She has a monopoly on Democrat national leadership, sink or swim. The hope of the Progressive movement in America resides in the embodiment of what is wrong with establishment politics in Washington.

How do you like your chances?

http://thefederalist.com/2015/10/23/...for-democrats/

Didn't get to read the article until this morning, but this article pretty much nails the current democratic field.