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  • #16
    Originally posted by Aargh View Post
    Yeah, "planned baby killers" That's an example of one of my problems with the conservative Repub movement - using terminology that's more likely to inflame than inform.

    The main goal of Planned Parenthood is not to provide abortion referrals (PP provides no abortion services themselves).
    Actually, Aargh, Planned Parenthood does provide abortions. Nationally, they provide the majority of all abortions. Perhaps in Kansas, Planned Parenthood does not provide abortions, they don't provide the service in every state, but across the country, they do.
    There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.

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    • #17
      PP provides over 300,000 abortions, annually. Interesting writeup.
      There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Aargh View Post
        I am a Christian Republican and I find this comment so utterly offensive that I can't just not comment on how inappropriate, stupid, and self-destructive statements like this are.
        Are you Pro-Choice? (I would normally say Pro-Abortion, but you seem sensitive to loaded language)

        If you are, how do you square that with being a Christian?
        "Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should accomplish with your ability."
        -John Wooden

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Aargh View Post
          Unfortunately, Christian values are getting cherry-picked by conservative Repubs. Christ was rather considerate of children, widows, the poor. Sharing that attitude today gets one labeled as a lib or a Socialist.
          I am a Christian Republican and I find this comment so utterly offensive that I can't just not comment on how inappropriate, stupid, and self-destructive statements like this are.
          "Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should accomplish with your ability."
          -John Wooden

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          • #20
            Originally posted by wu_shizzle View Post
            I am a Christian Republican and I find this comment so utterly offensive that I can't just not comment on how inappropriate, stupid, and self-destructive statements like this are.
            Please explain.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Anthroshock View Post
              Please explain.
              You want me to explain why "Planned Baby Killers" as a reference to Planned Parenthood is a problem? Inflammatory rhetoric rallies the supporters of a cause, but it polarizes those who might be convinced to join the cause.

              Unless Roe v. Wade is overturned, abortion is a constitutionally protected medical procedure. It doesn't matter whether any individual is in favor or opposed to abortion. The law that governs our nation says abortion is available to those who choose it.

              If you oppose Planned Parenthood, you'd better support one of the following: 1) Massive government assistance to single mothers. 2) Abortion. 3) Taking babies away from their mothers and putting them into foster care.

              What is the plan for a 17-year old girl who has an unwanted pregnancy and is absolutely unable to support a child? The same group that vehemently opposes abortion also vehemently opposes government assistance to raise the unwanted child.
              The future's so bright - I gotta wear shades.
              We like to cut down nets and get sized for championship rings.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Aargh View Post
                You want me to explain why "Planned Baby Killers" as a reference to Planned Parenthood is a problem? Inflammatory rhetoric rallies the supporters of a cause, but it polarizes those who might be convinced to join the cause.

                Unless Roe v. Wade is overturned, abortion is a constitutionally protected medical procedure. It doesn't matter whether any individual is in favor or opposed to abortion. The law that governs our nation says abortion is available to those who choose it.

                If you oppose Planned Parenthood, you'd better support one of the following: 1) Massive government assistance to single mothers. 2) Abortion. 3) Taking babies away from their mothers and putting them into foster care.

                What is the plan for a 17-year old girl who has an unwanted pregnancy and is absolutely unable to support a child? The same group that vehemently opposes abortion also vehemently opposes government assistance to raise the unwanted child.
                Talk about hyperbole. The things you said really has little to do with the Planned Patenthood issue. Have you seen a Partial Birth Abortion? Have you seen abortions (often late term to get the best parts) done to sell body parts? Why does PP and democrats not want a counseling center that helps find alternatives to abortion not to be set up next door to PP clinics. I personally know of several people who have dedicated their lives and lots of money to helping pregnant mothers find alternatives for their babies. Why should federal funds (we didn't do it when Reagan was President) be given to an abortion industry that Margaret Sanger started (read about her views).

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                • #23
                  PPH has the goal of preventing unwanted pregnancy. I don't think too many have issue with that. As part of that goal, they provide abortions to mothers. Now people begin to have issues with PPH. 84% of those services are over 20 years old per their website. So the majority of their clients are not impoverished teens; rather they are those that do or should have the means to care for a child they don't want. Then they openly advocate for third trimester abortions of viable babies. Finally, they advocate for the sale of these body-parts, meaning that they try to keep the fetus alive and intact for as long as possible in order to kill the baby and harvest the tissue. Now, it's actually illegal to sell the body parts, so they are donated to research facilities with processing and service fees associated.

                  PPH also provides sex-Ed, birth control options, and women's health at decreased prices. All of these services can also be had through Medicaid for the under-privileged, or through Obama-Care.

                  In the end it's up to each individual to decide if PPH deserves funding and to what degree it should be supported or opposed.
                  Livin the dream

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Aargh View Post
                    I am a Christian Republican and I find this comment so utterly offensive that I can't just not comment on how inappropriate, stupid, and self-destructive statements like this are.
                    LOL - watch the videos of planned parenthood and come back an tell me they should be funded. I find your comments utterly offensive and mis-informed and stupid. And if you really are a Christ-follower, then will have answer for your support of the baby killers.

                    https://youtu.be/jjxwVuozMnU


                    https://youtu.be/c9EU_02c5bM

                    Last edited by SB Shock; September 27, 2015, 09:55 AM.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Anthroshock View Post
                      Please explain.
                      It was an attempt at humor.
                      "Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should accomplish with your ability."
                      -John Wooden

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Aargh View Post
                        Unless Roe v. Wade is overturned, abortion is a constitutionally protected medical procedure. The law that governs our nation says abortion is available to those who choose it.

                        If you oppose Planned Parenthood, you'd better support one of the following: 1) Massive government assistance to single mothers.
                        It's beyond frustrating and disappointing that "freedom" to do something has morphed into "the government has to provide the means for me to do what I want to be free".

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                        • #27
                          I've seen signs carried by people that say, "PRAY TO END ABORTION". They want us to pray to end the effect, but not the cause. They should be carrying signs that say, "PRAY TO END FORNICATION AND ADULTERY".

                          Most abortions are the result of unwanted pregnancies between couples who are either committing fornication or adultery. So if you solve that problem, you solve the abortion problem.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by MoValley John View Post
                            No he doesn't, he's an unabashed liberal. Liberals are great at pointing out bigotry, but because they are open minded and caring, they fail to see their own bigotted and closed kinded ways.

                            Example: Citing religious beliefs, clerk refuses to issue marriage licenses to same sex couples, liberals come unglued, cite separation of church and state; also claim religious beliefs make clerk unfit for office. On the contrary, a candidate for President questions that a Muslim might not be fit to be President because Sharia Law might supercede Constitution in eyes of the Muslim, liberals come unglued.

                            Really???

                            Hypocricy at its best!
                            I think you ought to stick to shooting prairie dogs as it is a great foil from showing the world how stupid you really are.

                            Take a look at all the Christians who complain about Muslims who want to institute 'sharia law', all the Christians who seemingly want to force their religious belies on the rest of us by holding government hostage and then have someone read the definition to you about what a hypocrite is, as reading comprehension is not you strong suit.

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                            • #29
                              This is going in a great direction.

                              Basketball needs to start before the board cannibalizes itself.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by shocka khan View Post
                                I think you ought to stick to shooting prairie dogs as it is a great foil from showing the world how stupid you really are.

                                Take a look at all the Christians who complain about Muslims who want to institute 'sharia law', all the Christians who seemingly want to force their religious belies on the rest of us by holding government hostage and then have someone read the definition to you about what a hypocrite is, as reading comprehension is not you strong suit.
                                That's all you got? Really? A couple insults mixed in with nothing?

                                Since your comprehension skills and vast liberal cranium are so superior, explain to us again how ebola is going to impact America. I'll LOL as I wait for your reply.
                                There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.

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