California Burning

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They don't need an innovative way to control fires. They need the well established way that they have been told to control fires for many decades. And those well known techniques have been turned down over and over due to pressure from environmentalist idiots.

Ahhhh, IC.

I think protecting the environment is very important, but a few owls are gonna need to die before these kind of disasters are allowed to happen again.

Perhaps there's a building technology that could be employed with the new construction. More fire retardant materials perhaps? I think these folks could afford it. And it might make their homes more insurable. Kind of like how 30 yr shingles do for us.

[ShockerDropOut]

You know the innovative way to control fires in California? Don't built your house in the middle of the forest! There. Problem solved. You're welcome.

[Kung Wu]

They are touting numbers over $450B in damages, and the fires are still raging. California's budget is $322B.

This may not necessarily "bankrupt" the state, but the financial fallout is going to be something we have never seen before in the United States.

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They are touting numbers over $450B in damages, and the fires are still raging. California's budget is $322B.

This may not necessarily "bankrupt" the state, but the financial fallout is going to be something we have never seen before in the United States.

That is horrific!

[shocktown]

They are touting numbers over $450B in damages, and the fires are still raging. California's budget is $322B.

This may not necessarily "bankrupt" the state, but the financial fallout is going to be something we have never seen before in the United States.

Posturing for all they can get from Federal relief. 450 billion equals 10000 structures @ 45 million each or however you wish to extrapolate. Bend us over!

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Posturing for all they can get from Federal relief. 450 billion equals 10000 structures @ 45 million each or however you wish to extrapolate. Bend us over!

It was misreported. The actual damages so far is $150B. The $450B is what California's plan, FAIR, is on the hook for _state wide_. Still ... $150B and climbing is no joke.

[Shockm]

https://www.kcra.com/article/california-special-session-trump-proof-wildfires/63384738

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/california-democrats-criticized-for-holding-trump-proof-special-session-as-fires-rage/ar-BB1reAro

[ShockerPrez]

https://www.kcra.com/article/califor...fires/63384738


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ge/ar-BB1reAro

Trump might go in and screw things up in that state.

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700 bucks a person adds up to how much?

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L.A.’s water chief makes $750k a year. The president of the United States: $400k

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Rep. Shane Di Carlo @FFTopPro



Californians voted 10 years ago and offered up billions for reservoirs and not a single one has been built 10 years later.

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A story about how a doctor prepared for this eventuality and saved his house and some of his neighbors.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/01/11/courageous-brain-surgeon-saved-malibu-street-wildfires/

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L.A.’s water chief makes $750k a year. The president of the United States: $400k

That seems a little excessive.

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Lauren Sinnott


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I have learned a lot in the last few days about the LA fires and why this is happening. Local LA media and some of my MSNBC news shows have been really informative. Lawrence O’Donnell has a home in LA and he gave an impassioned presentation tonight. For the scientific specifics, an especially good source is Daniel Swain, the UCLA climatologist. Find him at www.weatherwest.com and on social media platforms.
What’s happening in LA is to fire as a blizzard is to snow, as a hurricane is to rain. This is all about the wind. And the California climate. And climate change.
1. A lot of people who don’t live here also don’t understand the Mediterranean climate. For six months of the year, we do not have rain. This can create very dry conditions. The other six months should contain significant amounts of rain.
2. The vegetation around LA is brushy with smaller trees. During our six months without rain, this vegetation becomes very dry. Even if and especially when there has been a lot of rain in the preceding winter. A lot of rain makes the vegetation grow. Then in the summer it all dries out. That happened during the last couple of years. So there’s a lot of fuel for fire. And it doesn’t stay moist and shady as in a tall, dense redwood forest, or in a Midwestern or eastern forest where rain occurs during the summer. In Southern California, it just all dries out. Every summer, no matter how much rain came in the preceding winter.
3. For most of the year, coastal California gets a lot of moisture-laden, cool wind coming from the Pacific Ocean and blowing onto the land. However, that changes during part of the year in southern California, typically from October to January. This is when the Santa Ana winds blow in the other direction. The Santa Ana winds are what is creating this situation. These are high dry winds coming from California’s inland desert areas blowing out towards the sea.
4. What can help prevent catastrophic fires is the fact that typically, by the time the Santa Ana winds start, the dry half of the year is ending and rains come. That is happening less consistently now. When the long dry season extends into October, and November, and December - as has happened in southern California this year - all that voluminous dry vegetation from the previous wet years is overlapping with the Santa Ana winds. This is a recipe for disaster.
5. When winds blow at these high speeds, with gusts up to 100 miles an hour, as happened in LA on Tuesday, fire is inevitable and can’t be stopped. Planes and helicopters cannot fly to drop water or retardant from the air. Sparks and embers will be blasted across even an extensive densely built urban area. Fires on that wind are like a blowtorch and can’t be stopped.
6. Only when the wind dies down, can effective firefighting happen. And even then, the wind can return. This is what firefighters and residents are battling in LA right now. This is how entire neighborhoods can be burned in one night, in multiple locations, creating conditions firefighters can’t stop, can only suppress, until the conditions change. Like waiting out a hurricane. A hurricane of fire.
#LAFire
PS the horrible circumstance of fire hydrants not producing sufficient water is happening, not because there is not enough water stored, but because electricity has been turned off in many areas, and electricity powers the system that keeps the water pressurized. It’s an issue of lack of pressure, not lack of water. And aircraft that can scoop up water, even from the ocean, can’t fly in heavy winds.