Drones

[ShockerPrez]

Not sure what anyone else thinks about this topic. Was curious to see what people think.

The only thing that makes me chuckle is the Feds stating they have no idea where they are coming from or what they are.

Riiiiggghhhht.

Some of the videos I watched, I was able to call BS within 5 minutes just by looking at a map and seeing an military base across the street.

But I have no idea on the timing.

[Kung Wu]

In the past a techy friend and I came to the same conclusion: The first generation of anti-drone technology will actually be drones.

That said, local, state, and federal governments have been desperate for anti-drone tech, and it would not surprise me at all if this is a private company working with the government to op-test and or deploy anti-drone tech. I can definitely see where they would want to keep that "quiet" until they are sure it's working.

[ShockBand]

Government: "Not us."

[ShockerPrez]

The testing makes sense. Not sure why they are in NJ, but if they need to test a place with a population, NJ area makes sense too. There seems to be a semi remote facility at Sandy Hook NJ, which seems to be where they are originating. And people seeing them return to sea don't know. Most people can't navigate anywhere 20 minutes from their house.

[ShockerFever]

I’m also leaning towards a drone geek club trying to make the headlines with thousands of copycats to follow.

[SB Shock]

Not sure what anyone else thinks about this topic. Was curious to see what people think.

The only thing that makes me chuckle is the Feds stating they have no idea where they are coming from or what they are.

Riiiiggghhhht.

Some of the videos I watched, I was able to call BS within 5 minutes just by looking at a map and seeing an military base across the street.

But I have no idea on the timing.

On a another thread I had posted my thoughts

The drone hysteria is so laughable.

1. Flying drones is not illegal. There are many reasons to fly drones. Drones are used for delivery, pipeline inspections, insurance companies, law enforcement, etc.

2. It is a federal crime to attempt to shoot a drone down. And if you have mistaken an airliner for a drone, it could be a real tragedy.

3. Many drone sightings at night are just aircraft.

4. There have been foreign actors flying drones into restricted areas. They have been arrested recently. Which should tell you that they can figure out who is flying and track them down.

5. With the hysteria, I expect there are alot of comedians out there now flying their drones. Looks like 2 of them were arrested around Logan Airport.

6. I suspect the government is being quiet about this because the hysteria helps hide what they are doing.
a.) In some cases, I expect they are conducting security drills for the bases for anti-drone operations.
b.) In other cases, they may be conducting work on drone tactical training/operations (e.g. drone swarm operations).
c.) There is a drone bill that will significantly increase the requirements and restrictions on drone operations. The hysteria increases the likelihood that the bill will be passed.

I have looked at some of the videos that some posted on the NJ drones. One was a car chasing the moon low on the horizon. Another was starlink satellites strand. Others were commercial or military aircraft.

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[SB Shock]

Also, The War Zone is a media organization that intelligently covers drones and engages in critical thinking on the topic. They realize it is a complex and technical issue. The government is not transparent and is not a reliable source of information, mainly because nobody has forced it to be.

The mainstream media has no clue about what they are talking about and doesn't care. They love the story because it is effective clickbait, and the more hysteria and rumors they generate, the more "clicks" they get.

Here is their latest story. But they have some other good stories, like the drone swarm that occurred in Colorado a few years ago.

https://www.twz.com/news-features/multiple-drone-incursions-reported-over-marine-corps-base-camp-pendleton

[Shockm]

It sounds like radioactive waste (left over from the 80’s) is difficult to safely dispose of b/c it lasts 1000’s of years. Speculation by several experts is that there are exposed materials in New Jersey that may have been stolen and drones are being used to surveille the situation. Sounds serious.

[SB Shock]

It sounds like radioactive waste (left over from the 80’s) is difficult to safely dispose of b/c it lasts 1000’s of years. Speculation by several experts is that there are exposed materials in New Jersey that may have been stolen and drones are being used to surveille the situation. Sounds serious.

Do you have a link to a competent media source?

I have seen this speculation from conspiracy theorists, but I would judge their credibility to be lacking.

[Atxshoxfan]

Here's a competent source for you.

[ShockerPrez]

It sounds like radioactive waste (left over from the 80’s) is difficult to safely dispose of b/c it lasts 1000’s of years. Speculation by several experts is that there are exposed materials in New Jersey that may have been stolen and drones are being used to surveille the situation. Sounds serious.

If this is true, I would hope this search wouldn't be limited to night hours.

[Shockm]

Do you have a link to a competent media source?

I have seen this speculation from conspiracy theorists, but I would judge their credibility to be lacking.

I heard an eastern nuclear waste expert live on Fox News, but don’t remember his name. I don’t know if anyone else (media sources) are doing the investigative work to find anything out. But after the Chinese balloon incident a year ago, when citizens knew as much as the media, or Pentagon, I don’t trust the Feds to know anything.

[SB Shock]

I heard an eastern nuclear waste expert live on Fox News,

LOL, the same Fox News that post pictures of the alleged drones; one was clearly a Southwest 737 (I could tell by the tail swash), and another was a helicopter. Fox is not a news service; they are just another Reality TV Channel with a news genre.

but don’t remember his name. I don’t know if anyone else (media sources) are doing the investigative work to find anything out.

The conspiracy theory has been squashed. The missing radioactive material that started this conspiracy (on Fox) has been found and disposed of. Congress has been briefed, a bipartisan politicians have spoken on the public record and said they were assured there is not missing radioactive material being hunted down by drones.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/fact-check-radioactive-material-triggered-drone-theories-missing/story?id=116884712

https://www.nj.com/news/2024/12/no-drones-arent-searching-nj-for-nuclear-material-latest-conspiracy-theory-debunked.html

https://www.defensedaily.com/missing-radiation-source-found-in-new-jersey-state-federal-agencies-say-they-did-not-use-drones-to-look-for-it/unmanned-systems/

[Shockm]

Thanks for the update. I don’t know that any theory had totally been squashed yet. The government still hasn’t shown whats going on, and nobody else knows. So one plane was proven? LOL. It’s been proven that the larger drones did not come from hobbyists, and most of the drone activity wasn’t airplanes. LOL

You can watch NBC, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CNN if you like. I think Fox is better.

[SB Shock]

Thanks for the update.

You are welcome.

The government still hasn’t shown whats going on, and nobody else knows.

Just because fox told you they don't know what going on doesn't mean nobody else does.

The FBI has said

Having closely examined the technical data and tips from concerned citizens, we assess that the sightings to date include a combination of lawful commercial drones, hobbyist drones, and law enforcement drones, as well as manned fixed-wing aircraft, helicopters, and stars mistakenly reported as drones. We have not identified anything anomalous and do not assess the activity to date to present a national security or public safety risk over the civilian airspace in New Jersey or other states in the northeast.

I do not understand what you are expecting. It is called Life in 2024. Drones are being used everywhere. The are being used by law enforcement, for hobbiest, by Disney, by the Chinese spies, by people trying to smuggle drugs/contraband, by hobbiest, by news people, by companies testing new technologies, for inspecting pipelines, by insurance companies, by HOAs to spie, by chuckleheads to give you anxiety, etc.

You can watch NBC, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CNN if you like. I think Fox is better.

I gave you a defense news source, a local source, and the ABC source because I doubted they could say anything that would make you give up your conspiracy theories. You may enjoy fox better for entertainment, but you are not getting reliable news.

For those who want some discernment, these are much better sources for news than the Fox Reality Network.

WSJ
Reuters
Jerusalem Post
New Nation
The Hill (Capitol Hill politics)
Christian Science Monitor
Market Watch
Homeland Security Newswire (National Security news aggregate)
BBC
Time of Israel
38 North (North Korea)
The War Zone (Military)
Task & Purpose (Military)
Scotusblog (supreme court analysis)
RealClear Politics (news aggregate and polling summary)
LexisNexis (neighborhood crime stats)