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  • #31
    That’s from 2015, and by saying consumption is “fluctuating” you aren’t saying anything at all.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by wufan View Post

      That’s from 2015, and by saying consumption is “fluctuating” you aren’t saying anything at all.
      I know when the report was from.

      And of course I am. Fluctuation is an irregular rising and falling metric - a common precursor to a trend reversal.

      The U.S. is moving away from fossil fuels and will continue to move away and/or learn to consume them in a much more efficient manner.

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      • #33
        A lot of it will continue to come south via rail. That is more expensive for the industry and probably worse for the environment, but mostly, it creates more donations to the DNC.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post

          I know when the report was from.

          And of course I am. Fluctuation is an irregular rising and falling metric - a common precursor to a trend reversal.

          The U.S. is moving away from fossil fuels and will continue to move away and/or learn to consume them in a much more efficient manner.
          Are you aware that fossil fuel consumption went up since your article?
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          • #35
            Originally posted by wufan View Post

            Are you aware that fossil fuel consumption went up since your article?
            Clod’s confused.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by wufan View Post

              Are you aware that fossil fuel consumption went up since your article?
              Yes. It's vacillating.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by pinstripers View Post
                A lot of it will continue to come south via rail. That is more expensive for the industry and probably worse for the environment, but mostly, it creates more donations to the DNC.
                Warren Buffet stands to profit significantly off this order up front. He owns the railroad that transports the majority of the oil from up north. This is significantly higher in cost to ship this way. Also, the safety factor is something that needs to be taken into account with rail. When these trains have accidents, and believe me they happen more than they should, they are a nightmare. This crude has a higher concentration of natural gas in it, making it significantly more explosive. Regular crude from the midwest isn't nearly as explosive.

                Railroads are all in a cost cutting mode right now as well. This leads to lack of maintenance, and tired crews. A recipe for disaster.

                Trucks wont be hauling this stuff long distances. 8000 gallons on a semi is much less efficient than 50000 gallons on a railcar.

                And one last thing to ponder. Buffet is a huge democratic party financial backer. Does anyone see a potential issue here?

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                • #38
                  Elimination of 11,000 jobs with the stroke of a pen. Way to go Hiden Joe!

                  #unity

                  Neal Crabtree, a welding foreman who began working on pipeline construction as an apprentice in 1997, was dismayed when he heard the news. 


                  In his first day in office, President Joe Biden signed an executive order to halt the construction of the Keystone XL Pipeline, which was meant to transport Canadian crude oil to the U.S., citing the climate-change crisis as the reason.

                  The move swiftly eliminated the estimated 11,000 U.S. jobs – including 8,000 union jobs – the project would have sustained in 2021.

                  Neal Crabtree, a welding foreman who began working on pipeline construction as an apprentice in 1997, was dismayed when he heard the news.

                  "This is not a time to be making political statements. We need to be finding ways to put more Americans back to work, not the other way around," he said in an interview with Fox News.

                  A member of Pipeliners Local Union 798, one of four unions whose members will be left without work due to the pipeline’s cancellation, the 46-year-old welder from Arkansas was among the first to be laid off following the order. At the time the cross-border permits for the pipeline were rescinded, he and his team were in Nebraska working on a pump station for Keystone XL.

                  In a Facebook post from the Wednesday, Crabtree wrote he felt "a sick feeling in my stomach and an aching in my heart," and admitted to breaking down and crying in his truck after laying off his team.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by rrshock View Post
                    Railroads are all in a cost cutting mode right now as well. This leads to lack of maintenance, and tired crews. A recipe for disaster.

                    Trucks wont be hauling this stuff long distances. 8000 gallons on a semi is much less efficient than 50000 gallons on a railcar.
                    However, the carbon emitted from a train much more than the carbon emitted from a “CLEAN” pipeline.


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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by SB Shock View Post

                      Actually it not, world consumption continues to increase year after year except for 2020. They expect consumption will recover and start increasing by 2022 if the world come out of the pandemic.

                      It actually takes a lot of oil to produce all those plastics we use.
                      ... and fly those big azz airplanes.
                      Before we know it, Air Force One will be a high tech covered wagon. C’mom man!
                      "You Just Want to Slap The #### Outta Some People"

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by MikeKennedyRulZ View Post
                        Elimination of 11,000 jobs with the stroke of a pen. Way to go Hiden Joe!

                        #unity

                        Neal Crabtree, a welding foreman who began working on pipeline construction as an apprentice in 1997, was dismayed when he heard the news. 

                        I dont disagree with that. Trains are a much more efficient mean of transport, carbon wise, than the rest however.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post

                          Doesn't make any difference how I got my information, I got it and it was accurate. The personal relationships you have with others can help you uncover a lot. Networking is important.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by MikeKennedyRulZ View Post
                            Elimination of 11,000 jobs with the stroke of a pen. Way to go Hiden Joe!

                            #unity

                            Neal Crabtree, a welding foreman who began working on pipeline construction as an apprentice in 1997, was dismayed when he heard the news. 

                            Let's run that toxic **** over to san diego and run it over the bay, perhaps as close to Coronado Island as we can get, ideally nearest the biggest beach we can find. Then we can have a science project where we drill holes in the pipeline to see how corrosive it actually is.

                            Or better yet, we can take a dump truck full of this **** and dump it in front of Ruiz's apartment so his kids can go play in it, since they are all depressed about this lockdown.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by revenge_of_shocka_khan View Post

                              Let's run that toxic **** over to san diego and run it over the bay, perhaps as close to Coronado Island as we can get, ideally nearest the biggest beach we can find. Then we can have a science project where we drill holes in the pipeline to see how corrosive it actually is.

                              Or better yet, we can take a dump truck full of this **** and dump it in front of Ruiz's apartment so his kids can go play in it, since they are all depressed about this lockdown.
                              And yet, the opposite of that was proposed and still struck down.
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by revenge_of_shocka_khan View Post

                                Let's run that toxic **** over to san diego and run it over the bay, perhaps as close to Coronado Island as we can get, ideally nearest the biggest beach we can find. Then we can have a science project where we drill holes in the pipeline to see how corrosive it actually is.

                                Or better yet, we can take a dump truck full of this **** and dump it in front of Ruiz's apartment so his kids can go play in it, since they are all depressed about this lockdown.
                                Dude, I have seriously never met someone more triggered in my life. Typical lefty. Believe as I believe or I will go ape sh!t. Lol. Take a break bro. You really need professional help.

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