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  • Originally posted by Shock Top View Post

    Why didn’t the rest of the world do this then too?
    Many countries did.

    Originally posted by Shock Top View Post
    Why did people blast Trump’s travel ban?
    To which people are you referring? Joe Biden? You will find that, shockingly, Trump (or whoever you heard this from) was not telling the truth on this matter.
    https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...sed-trumps-co/

    Or maybe you mean Tom Bossert, Trump's former Homeland Security Advisor who said, "In two weeks, we will regret wasting time and energy on travel restrictions and wish we focused more on hospital preparation and large scale community mitigation."

    Originally posted by Shock Top View Post
    Who in Washington was calling for drastic efforts in December 2019?
    Alex Azar brought it up at least as early as January 18. Also, I'm not sure what you mean by drastic measures. I don't consider ramping up testing, contact tracing capabilities, etc. as drastic measures. And again, I've already said that the blame doesn't rest solely on the president.

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    • Originally posted by Shockm View Post

      He did testing. But this CONTACT TRACING thing you bring up is a HUGE concern of mine. Sounds like something China would do. I don't need a contact tracer on me like NFL football that can know who and where I"ve been every minute of my life. The government has too much power of us already in my opinion.
      Contact tracing is one of the most basic, essential tools to fight infectious diseases. I test positive for a virus and I list all the places I've been or people I've come into contact within the period of time that I was most likely contagious. That way people know they may have been infected and can act accordingly. It's for the safety of others, not something to fear. Plus it's a great way to prevent further community spread.

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      • Originally posted by ShockerFever View Post

        How often must the left be reminded that Pelosi called Trump xenophobic and encouraged people to go out to Chinatown in late February?

        But Nanci and her maskless salon visits get free passes because, you know, just because.
        I guess as many times as people must be reminded to fact check something they hear or read before regurgitating it.

        A viral video makes the bogus claim that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s Jan. 31 tweet criticized the Trump administration’s restriction on travelers from China to slow the spread of the novel coronavirus. Her tweet was unrelated to those travel restrictions.


        She did encourage people to (safely) visit chinatown weeks before CA instituted lock downs. I don't know whether she was privy to the same briefings/information as the president at that time.

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        • Originally posted by pie n eye View Post

          Contact tracing is one of the most basic, essential tools to fight infectious diseases. I test positive for a virus and I list all the places I've been or people I've come into contact within the period of time that I was most likely contagious. That way people know they may have been infected and can act accordingly. It's for the safety of others, not something to fear. Plus it's a great way to prevent further community spread.
          The contact tracer can be placed on your phone. If you want the government to have the POWER over your life by knowing where you’ve been, who you've been with, and all of your meta-data, go ahead. But after witnessing what they have done the past few years, count me out.

          The television show “Person of Interest” where government can track American citizens is here. The technology is available For government to trace where you’ve been and who you’ve been with Is no longer imagination. China already has it thanks, to Microsoft.
          Last edited by Shockm; November 6, 2020, 07:21 PM.

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          • Originally posted by Shockm View Post

            The contact tracer can be placed on your phone. If you want the government to have the POWER over your life by knowing where you’ve been, who you've been with, and all of your meta-data, go ahead. But after witnessing what they have done the past few years, count me out.

            The television show “Person of Interest” where government can track American citizens is here. The technology is available For government to trace where you’ve been and who you’ve been with Is no longer imagination. China already has it thanks, to Microsoft.
            I don't think you actually understand what contract tracing is. I didn't either until this year but I went out and did some research. It's nothing to be afraid of. Sure, there are countries who brought the practice into the cell phone era but it's not necessary.

            I hate to break it to you but tracking digital footprints has been around a long time. If you're so worried about the government, businesses or hackers knowing where you are or what you're doing you should get rid of your phone, computer, credit cards, etc. and move into the Alaskan wilderness.

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            • Originally posted by pie n eye View Post

              I don't think you actually understand what contract tracing is. I didn't either until this year but I went out and did some research. It's nothing to be afraid of. Sure, there are countries who brought the practice into the cell phone era but it's not necessary.

              I hate to break it to you but tracking digital footprints has been around a long time. If you're so worried about the government, businesses or hackers knowing where you are or what you're doing you should get rid of your phone, computer, credit cards, etc. and move into the Alaskan wilderness.
              No I’ve got my guns and I’ll ride it out here in Kansas.

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              • Originally posted by Shockm View Post

                No I’ve got my guns and I’ll ride it out here in Kansas.
                Sounds like a plan! Just don't get too close to any 5G cell towers, windmills or animals who were micro-chipped during the Obama administration.

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                • Originally posted by pie n eye View Post

                  I guess as many times as people must be reminded to fact check something they hear or read before regurgitating it.

                  A viral video makes the bogus claim that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s Jan. 31 tweet criticized the Trump administration’s restriction on travelers from China to slow the spread of the novel coronavirus. Her tweet was unrelated to those travel restrictions.


                  She did encourage people to (safely) visit chinatown weeks before CA instituted lock downs. I don't know whether she was privy to the same briefings/information as the president at that time.
                  I knew that would be your response. But she deserved to still call Trump a xenophobe amirite?

                  Are you khan’s wife?
                  Deuces Valley.
                  ... No really, deuces.
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                  - a smart man

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                  • Originally posted by ShockerFever View Post

                    I knew that would be your response. But she deserved to still call Trump a xenophobe amirite?

                    Are you khan’s wife?
                    Did she deserve to? If she finished her vegetables and did her homework I suppose she earned it.

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                    • So, will Jill Biden be Joe’s inside advisor ala Eleanor Roosevelt? You know the media would be all on board for her to do the majority of the speaking.

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                      • Originally posted by Shockm View Post

                        No I’ve got my guns and I’ll ride it out here in Kansas.
                        What do you intend to do with those guns, Mr. Weaver?
                        Wichita State, home of the All-Americans.

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                        • Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post
                          LMAO! Hearing you guys recount the spun story.

                          So here's what really happened...

                          1) The bus was maintaining a position several feet left - over the centerline.

                          2) The Biden SUV was driving close (too close) behind with it's emergency flashers (not blinker) on. I'm guessing it was attempting to "protect" the space immediately behind the bus. For what practical purpose I can't imagine. Perhaps for the exact opposite reason the Trump trucks were there (encourage instead of intimidate).

                          3) Now the next part is a little unclear. Either the SUV was pulling left a bit so the bus driver could see him in his sideview mirror (an act of courtesy), or perhaps he was moving left in anticipation of the bus changing lanes (which it had already partially done). OR, the SUV might have been trying to facilitate the bus changing lanes by blocking anybody from the rear from sliding up next to the bus and limiting the bus's movement.

                          4) After the SUV had cleared the original lane sufficiently, the Trump truck shot up and took his space. A very aggressive move intended to frustrate and intimidate the SUV.

                          5) The bus decides to recommit to the lane it had been 75% occupying and the SUV starts pulling to the right with the bus. At this point the SUV realizes the truck has taken his prior spot. The SUV then pulls unsafely close to the truck. It's likely the SUV knew the truck was there, but I saw no signs of swerving or attempt at aggression. Essentially the SUV believes (and could be acting in formal capacity) that they are an escort of sorts.

                          6) The next video shows the two vehicles close and then the Trump truck violently ramming the SUV into the other lane. This was a highly aggressive maneuver and well beyond the limits of defending oneself in a collision. What I don't know is if the SUV bumped the truck first, but the video doesn't show any signs of that, and it would be highly unusual for someone in a smaller vehicle to ram a larger one. Regardless, the entirety of the collision shows the Trump truck playing bumper cars, therefore the Trump truck driver deserves to have his license suspended and a few nights in jail.

                          The whole purpose of the Trump truck brigade was to limit the movement of the bus and not allow it to leave the highway (so it drives straight through town). Probably a common occurrence in Mexico or Iraq. There is no scenario where one of those trucks comes out a victim. This is no different than getting into an argument with a guy in a bar and then blowing his brains out in the parking lot claiming self-defense. It ain't gonna fly.
                          This is the same clown who drove his truck through a group of Black Lives Matter protesters in San Antonio. He seems to like vigilante justice, and he brags about using his AR-15 on people he disagrees with. And not his first scrape with the law, either:


                          He is a danger to his community. He needs to be in anger management or in jail.

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                            • Originally posted by BOBB View Post

                              What do you intend to do with those guns, Mr. Weaver?
                              Hey, you heard the man! You are delusional and will be taught a lesson.

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                              • By the way, I never voted for Biden, I didn't vote for Trump this time either; but let me be the first lifetime Republican on this board to say... Biden is my president.

                                Let's bring peace back to this land and continue the experiment called America. Let's compromise with the global warmers and lets not threaten the dudes in the jacked up trucks, working on oil rigs all day.

                                Let's find some tiny victories for all in the legislature, continue to bring back the jobs, and beat this ******* virus into submission in the process.

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