The Country of CHAZ

[Shockm]

There is no doubt in my mind that a few small ultra right racist groups would take advantage of these riots to progress their own racist agenda but that has to be a pretty small group because their numbers are so small to begin with and they are hardly organized nationwide.

Now the left wing groups, including BLM, and even farther left groups like Antifa, and Black Panthers who are becoming more intermingled all the time, (they have a lot of money (paid for by Soros, actors, etc.) and are organized nationwide.

Wuzee,

The moderate left Democrats need to wake up on how they are being taken over by what used to be the ultra left and you are on the wrong side of this. The left including moderates have called anyone who is a Republican a racist for so long, they have no compass for what a racist really is. They don't realize that most Republicans are allies on George Floyd, and other examples like him but they over reach with rioting, etc.

[wufan]

There is no doubt in my mind that a few small ultra right racist groups would take advantage of these riots to progress their own racist agenda but that has to be a pretty small group because their numbers are so small to begin with and they are hardly organized nationwide.

Now the left wing groups, including BLM, and even farther left groups like Antifa, and Black Panthers who are becoming more intermingled all the time, (they have a lot of money (paid for by Soros, actors, etc.) and are organized nationwide.

Wuzee,

The moderate left Democrats need to wake up on how they are being taken over by what used to be the ultra left and you are on the wrong side of this. The left including moderates have called anyone who is a Republican a racist for so long, they have no compass for what a racist really is. They don't realize that most Republicans are allies on George Floyd, and other examples like him but they over reach with rioting, etc.

BLM is organizing nationally.

Antifa is not.

[Shockm]

BLM is organizing nationally.

Antifa is not.

Antifa doesn't have a roster of members or a designated leader, and without (or before) social media, they wouldn't be able to organize, but to say that they aren't organized is not true either. They are loosely organized, know who they trust, (who doesn't mind breaking laws, attacking/looting/vandalizing businesses) and they communicate with each other through social media nationwide. My opinion is that as time has moved on, the BLM/Antifa movement has morphed together with more and more liberal white people welcomed into the BLM fold.

[ShockTalk]

Antifa doesn't have a roster of members or a designated leader, and without (or before) social media, they wouldn't be able to organize, but to say that they aren't organized is not true either. They are loosely organized, know who they trust, (who doesn't mind breaking laws, attacking/looting/vandalizing businesses) and they communicate with each other through social media nationwide. My opinion is that as time has moved on, the BLM/Antifa movement has morphed together with more and more liberal white people welcomed into the BLM fold.

I saw many instances where BLM and Antifa types did NOT get along during protests. I guess it is who you (or themselves) define as BLM.

[Shockm]

I saw many instances where BLM and Antifa types did NOT get along during protests. I guess it is who you (or themselves) define as BLM.

I'm not sure about many but there were some instances. However, when night came, and rioting ensued, Antifa, and the anarchists came out and I think that many who consider themselves BLM, became a part of the riots. If not, we have more antifa type of people nationwide than I thought.

I heard more than one BLM leader saying that they hesitated to call out people who were looting.

[ShockTalk]

I'm not sure about many but there were some instances. However, when night came, and rioting ensued, Antifa, and the anarchists came out and I think that many who consider themselves BLM, became a part of the riots. If not, we have more antifa type of people nationwide than I thought.

I heard more than one BLM leader saying that they hesitated to call out people who were looting.

The blacks that did the rioting, burning, the looting, the beating, shooting of others, including black, did NOT do the BLM cause any good what so ever. Apparently, the BLM leaders you heard lack courage.

[WuDrWu]

I'm tired of hearing about systemic racism. If we're going to talk about systemic racism being real, and it's not, then we should have the courage to discuss systemic violence and crime in the black community.

[Kel Varnsen]

I'm tired of hearing about systemic racism. If we're going to talk about systemic racism being real, and it's not, then we should have the courage to discuss systemic violence and crime in the black community.

Another point that I think is important: systemic injustice is completely made up. Poor kids growing up in poor neighborhoods has nothing to do with justice. It's sad and deserves our attention and compassion, but it is not injustice. We can't make it right. The only way for that to change is for the families and communities in crime-ridden areas to step and say, "we're not going to live like this anymore." But that's not a narrative that wins politicians votes.

By the same token, I could say the game of basketball is systematically unjust against me as a 6' white dude with no athleticism to speak of.

[BOBB]

I'm tired of hearing about systemic racism. If we're going to talk about systemic racism being real, and it's not, then we should have the courage to discuss systemic violence and crime in the black community.

I agree, let's do.

They are related and one could have quite a chicken/egg discussion, but ultimately racist financial and housing policies exacerbating poverty in the black community were explicit law until the late '60's and bank policy well into the '70's. An entire economic ecosystem was built up around those policies and that system still exists. Let's make it impossible for anyone to get a loan on a home in Vickridge and see what happens to real estate values and investment in that neighborhood. How long until it looks like the old formerly grand neighborhoods of north Wichita? One generation? Two?

That's just one part of the system. It wasn't 200 years ago. This happened in most of our lifetimes.

I don't make common cause with the tear it all down crowd, but one has to actively suspend critical thinking to see how the average white kid doesn't have a head start on the average black kid in this country.

[Shockm]

I agree, let's do.

They are related and one could have quite a chicken/egg discussion, but ultimately racist financial and housing policies exacerbating poverty in the black community were explicit law until the late '60's and bank policy well into the '70's. An entire economic ecosystem was built up around those policies and that system still exists. Let's make it impossible for anyone to get a loan on a home in Vickridge and see what happens to real estate values and investment in that neighborhood. How long until it looks like the old formerly grand neighborhoods of north Wichita? One generation? Two?

That's just one part of the system. It wasn't 200 years ago. This happened in most of our lifetimes.

I don't make common cause with the tear it all down crowd, but one has to actively suspend critical thinking to see how the average white kid doesn't have a head start on the average black kid in this country.

You are conflating racist financial and housing policies with poverty. Maybe more African-American people as a percentage are impoverished, these policies exist for all impoverished people and these policies, that exacerbate poverty were brought about by the LBJ Great Society policies of the late 60s.

[BOBB]

You are conflating racist financial and housing policies with poverty. Maybe more African-American people as a percentage are impoverished, these policies exist for all impoverished people and these policies, that exacerbate poverty were brought about by the LBJ Great Society policies of the late 60s.

Since housing is most people's greatest asset it is definitely intertwines with poverty and hardly a conflation. What would happen to your net worth if I cut the value of your home by 2/3?

[C0|dB|00ded]

I agree, let's do.

They are related and one could have quite a chicken/egg discussion, but ultimately racist financial and housing policies exacerbating poverty in the black community were explicit law until the late '60's and bank policy well into the '70's. An entire economic ecosystem was built up around those policies and that system still exists. Let's make it impossible for anyone to get a loan on a home in Vickridge and see what happens to real estate values and investment in that neighborhood. How long until it looks like the old formerly grand neighborhoods of north Wichita? One generation? Two?

That's just one part of the system. It wasn't 200 years ago. This happened in most of our lifetimes.

I don't make common cause with the tear it all down crowd, but one has to actively suspend critical thinking to see how the average white kid doesn't have a head start on the average black kid in this country.

Families are the problem with the African-American community, not poverty. There are unlimited success stories of poor immigrants (INCLUDING AFRICANS) who've come to this country without a nickel in their pockets. Through hard work and families supporting families, they've all done extremely well as a whole. The entire culture of "ghetto blacks" is rotten with core principles based on immediate gratification and satisfying base impulses. Bill Cosby used to speak on this often.

The majority of PARENTS in poor African-American communities must dedicate their lives to the success of their children (instead of themselves) if they are to make a lasting change for the future. More government handouts or reparations will only lead to a temporary improvement in materialistic goods owned. When the handouts stop, everything will come crashing back down. This is a fundamental values problem.

You ought to ask an African immigrant sometime what they think of the African-American community. They're more racist than the most racist hillbilly white person. They are totally disgusted and embarrassed. Due to the influx of international African students to WSU, many steps had to be taken to soothe the "racist" behavior of the Africans towards the Afro-Americans.

If you've never met an African immigrant, you should do so sometime. Guys like E.O. are brilliant, extremely hard-working, and success-oriented. My point being, it has NOTHING to do with the color of your skin. It's all about attitude, priorities, and hard work.

God I wish E.O. would have made it to the NBA. He was so deserving. And he would have been a tremendous role model.


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[pinstripers]

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/...Ak7kfBf8fvLnMM

[C0|dB|00ded]

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/...Ak7kfBf8fvLnMM

Absolute madness!!!1

They should take a page out of the Katrina handbook and immediately start rounding up weapons from law-abiding citizens in their homes.


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[Dave Stalwart]

Families are the problem with the African-American community, not poverty. There are unlimited success stories of poor immigrants (INCLUDING AFRICANS) who've come to this country without a nickel in their pockets. Through hard work and families supporting families, they've all done extremely well as a whole. The entire culture of "ghetto blacks" is rotten with core principles based on immediate gratification and satisfying base impulses. Bill Cosby used to speak on this often.

The majority of PARENTS in poor African-American communities must dedicate their lives to the success of their children (instead of themselves) if they are to make a lasting change for the future. More government handouts or reparations will only lead to a temporary improvement in materialistic goods owned. When the handouts stop, everything will come crashing back down. This is a fundamental values problem.

You ought to ask an African immigrant sometime what they think of the African-American community. They're more racist than the most racist hillbilly white person. They are totally disgusted and embarrassed. Due to the influx of international African students to WSU, many steps had to be taken to soothe the "racist" behavior of the Africans towards the Afro-Americans.

If you've never met an African immigrant, you should do so sometime. Guys like E.O. are brilliant, extremely hard-working, and success-oriented. My point being, it has NOTHING to do with the color of your skin. It's all about attitude, priorities, and hard work.

God I wish E.O. would have made it to the NBA. He was so deserving. And he would have been a tremendous role model.


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And he would have been so incredibly sexy too with that rock solid torso...and that deep, life altering voice. It is one of the great tragedies of our time that he was born with spatula hands