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  • “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”

    ― William F. Buckley

    The modern context would be progressives, not liberals. Progressives are actually not classic liberals, or really even close. Progressives are modern-era puritans, essentially. They feel their "religion" should be compelled upon others. Non-conformists should be tried, and if found guilty of non-conformation, figuratively burned at the stake. Witch trials v2.0.

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    • One of the other problem about the censorship that is going on at WSU, is at least antedotally that I’m hearing from parent that have students - there are professors threatening students grades for having views that they don’t agree with.

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      • Originally posted by SHOCKvalue View Post
        “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”

        ― William F. Buckley

        The modern context would be progressives, not liberals. Progressives are actually not classic liberals, or really even close. Progressives are modern-era puritans, essentially. They feel their "religion" should be compelled upon others. Non-conformists should be tried, and if found guilty of non-conformation, figuratively burned at the stake. Witch trials v2.0.
        It's becoming less and less figuratively.
        Kung Wu say, man making mistake in elevator wrong on many levels.

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        • Originally posted by SB Shock View Post
          One of the other problem about the censorship that is going on at WSU, is at least antedotally that I’m hearing from parent that have students - there are professors threatening students grades for having views that they don’t agree with.
          If that’s true, that’s absurd and should be investigated immediately.
          "In God we trust, all others must bring data." - W. Edwards Deming

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          • Originally posted by SHOCKvalue View Post
            “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”

            ― William F. Buckley

            The modern context would be progressives, not liberals. Progressives are actually not classic liberals, or really even close. Progressives are modern-era puritans, essentially. They feel their "religion" should be compelled upon others. Non-conformists should be tried, and if found guilty of non-conformation, figuratively burned at the stake. Witch trials v2.0.
            Liberals, Progressives, Democratic Socialists, whatever you want to call them, they all vote Democrat so I'll lump them into one basket. Their buffoonery is actually starting to make me lose my mind. Lego toy maker pulls their advertising on all their Police building sets. Liberals want to cancel the kids TV show 'Paw Patrol' because one of the cartoon dog characters named Chase is a Police Officer. Starbucks caved in and will allow its employees to wear BLM garments to work. The autonomous zone in Seattle actually has Liberals guarding the perimeter checking people's ID's to admission into this zone and are blackmailing businesses within the zone for their protection. Liberals want to change the name of the Disney World ride Splash Mountain because it was inspired by the song 'song of the south' which is racist. And so on and so forth.

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            • Originally posted by SB Shock View Post
              One of the other problem about the censorship that is going on at WSU, is at least antedotally that I’m hearing from parent that have students - there are professors threatening students grades for having views that they don’t agree with.
              happened to my grandaughter this past fall at Pitt St

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              • Google William Jacobsen Harvard Law School and he criticized BLM and they tried to fire him. He also tried to show proof that the Michael Brown shooting of "Hands up, don't shoot" was a legend and not true. He actually fought the policeman for his gun and was shot.

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                • Originally posted by SHOCKvalue View Post
                  “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”

                  ― William F. Buckley

                  The modern context would be progressives, not liberals. Progressives are actually not classic liberals, or really even close. Progressives are modern-era puritans, essentially. They feel their "religion" should be compelled upon others. Non-conformists should be tried, and if found guilty of non-conformation, figuratively burned at the stake. Witch trials v2.0.
                  +1 from a non progressive liberal. I believe the government has a role to play to put a floor on human misery. I also believe we need a party to act as a counter for when the pendulum swings too far. Unfortunately neither of the parties are discussing how to get the government out of our lives, just arguing over where to completely intrude.
                  Wichita State, home of the All-Americans.

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                  • Originally posted by Shox The Revenant View Post

                    Liberals, Progressives, Democratic Socialists, whatever you want to call them, they all vote Democrat so I'll lump them into one basket. Their buffoonery is actually starting to make me lose my mind. Lego toy maker pulls their advertising on all their Police building sets. Liberals want to cancel the kids TV show 'Paw Patrol' because one of the cartoon dog characters named Chase is a Police Officer. Starbucks caved in and will allow its employees to wear BLM garments to work. The autonomous zone in Seattle actually has Liberals guarding the perimeter checking people's ID's to admission into this zone and are blackmailing businesses within the zone for their protection. Liberals want to change the name of the Disney World ride Splash Mountain because it was inspired by the song 'song of the south' which is racist. And so on and so forth.
                    Liberals want to do none of those things.

                    Wichita State, home of the All-Americans.

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                    • Lefties are the problem.

                      The Paw Patrol act is because the policeman character is noble.....

                      The freaking character in a children's cartoon is too nice and always helps, and because he is a policeman that gives children the wrong impression of cops, who as we all know human scum....

                      If half the stuff lefties claim the way things are were true, they wouldn't have to go apeshit over speech. A majority of people would be experiencing it in their everyday lives. The fact is, that it's all complete and utter bullshit. Propaganda! Plain and simple. Why did Jussie Smollett fake his incident? Because it doesn't freaking happen. Why are police killings sensationized? Because they are rare! If this stuff was as common as the left says, we would all have personally been brutalized by a cop, or have had an immediate family member who has been.

                      Out of 300+ million interactions with law enforcement a year, you have a handful.

                      Judge individuals. Stop labelling based groups. You're gonna lose lefties. I surely can't believe a majority of people are this dumb.

                      But then again.... Great minds talk about ideas, average minds events, and simple minds people. From what I cam tell a lot of people talk about and are obsessed with people, celebrities, Trump, etc.

                      Make the Paw Patrol cop dirty and get on with it.

                      Effing lefty facists.
                      "When life hands you lemons, make lemonade." Better have some sugar and water too, or else your lemonade will suck!

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                      • And what in thee hell is going on in Seattle? I don't mean to hijack this thread from WSU's decision to cancel Ivanka, but damn! The new country of 'CHAZ' and Seattle's Mayor and Police are accommodating these anarchists? Can you imagine what would happen if a bunch of Alt-Right people decided to take over 6 blocks in a major city? Are we on the precipice of Civil War II? These anarchists may be extreme Progressive Liberals but at the end of the day, they have far more in common with the yahoos that decided to cancel Ivanka than they do with me, that's for sure.

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                        • Originally posted by ShockerPrez View Post
                          Lefties are the problem.

                          The Paw Patrol act is because the policeman character is noble.....

                          The freaking character in a children's cartoon is too nice and always helps, and because he is a policeman that gives children the wrong impression of cops, who as we all know human scum....

                          If half the stuff lefties claim the way things are were true, they wouldn't have to go apeshit over speech. A majority of people would be experiencing it in their everyday lives. The fact is, that it's all complete and utter bullshit. Propaganda! Plain and simple. Why did Jussie Smollett fake his incident? Because it doesn't freaking happen. Why are police killings sensationized? Because they are rare! If this stuff was as common as the left says, we would all have personally been brutalized by a cop, or have had an immediate family member who has been.

                          Out of 300+ million interactions with law enforcement a year, you have a handful.

                          Judge individuals. Stop labelling based groups. You're gonna lose lefties. I surely can't believe a majority of people are this dumb.

                          But then again.... Great minds talk about ideas, average minds events, and simple minds people. From what I cam tell a lot of people talk about and are obsessed with people, celebrities, Trump, etc.

                          Make the Paw Patrol cop dirty and get on with it.

                          Effing lefty facists.
                          The world has gone effing crazy. Never in my life would I have thought I'd see a tried redirection in thinking ALL POLICE are bad, dirty, corrupt, etc. VERY FEW bad apples in that profession but the same can be said for ALL OTHER professions. My god!

                          I for one still respect and admire the nation's police men and women. I raise my kids to do the same. I have taught my daughter that, if she is ever in trouble, needs help, whatever, that she can always trust the police to help. I will also continue to buy a meal anonymously for the badge next to me in line or sitting at a nearby table. I APPRECIATE THEM!

                          This has been a really bad year.

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                          • Originally posted by Shox The Revenant View Post
                            And what in thee hell is going on in Seattle? I don't mean to hijack this thread from WSU's decision to cancel Ivanka, but damn! The new country of 'CHAZ' and Seattle's Mayor and Police are accommodating these anarchists? Can you imagine what would happen if a bunch of Alt-Right people decided to take over 6 blocks in a major city? Are we on the precipice of Civil War II? These anarchists may be extreme Progressive Liberals but at the end of the day, they have far more in common with the yahoos that decided to cancel Ivanka than they do with me, that's for sure.
                            Check the Al Sharpton thread in this forum.
                            Livin the dream

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                            • Originally posted by BostonWu View Post
                              Rather convenient for the cancel crowd to be dismissive on major donor funds. You don't just replace them. In fact certain donors are impossible to replace. Of course the same crowd has been promised free college tuition and believes socialism will take care of them.
                              Why live off the donations of the charitable when you can simply take their money through the far more effective and efficient methods of taxation and regulation?

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                              • Originally posted by SB Shock View Post
                                One of the other problem about the censorship that is going on at WSU, is at least antedotally that I’m hearing from parent that have students - there are professors threatening students grades for having views that they don’t agree with.
                                My child's geology class, which was almost exclusively about the cause and effect of man made global warming, would seem to back this up. She was told what would result in a bad grade.

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