Sub's Alternative Energy Thread

[SubGod22]

Old tech being improved. Another way to generate electricity while also being functional. I'm kind of surprised this has been around in some form for 35 years and I can't recall having ever heard about it.

Electricity-Generating Windows: Scientists Design More Efficient Transparent Solar Panels

A dye-sensitized solar cell (DSC), also known as the Grätzel cell, is a low-cost solar cell based on a semiconductor formed between a photo-sensitized anode and an electrolyte. It was invented in 1988 by Brian O'Regan and Michael Grätzel.

The design aims to generate electric power by moving electrons from the photosensitizer towards an electrical output like a device or a storage unit.

DSCs are transparent, can be fabricated in multiple colors for low cost, and are already being used in skylights, greenhouses, as well as glass facades. In addition, lightweight flexible versions of DSCs are now commercially sold on a large scale for electrical powering of portable electronic devices.

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

Baton Rouge set a record high early this week, and some crazies came out calling out Climate Change.

The record high we broke was set in 1919. It had been 103 years since that record was set. I wonder what the crazies said back then about Climate Change.

[SubGod22]

Baton Rouge set a record high early this week, and some crazies came out calling out Climate Change.

The record high we broke was set in 1919. It had been 103 years since that record was set. I wonder what the crazies said back then about Climate Change.

That is one thing that has amused me when a lot of people talk about record highs and climate change. Most of the records set were a long ass time ago. Maybe if we were setting multiple records each year we'd have some evidence of actual change on a constant basis, but that's not the case. There's a cyclical aspect to weather and climate that often gets ignored because it is an inconvenient truth.

[wufan]

That is one thing that has amused me when a lot of people talk about record highs and climate change. Most of the records set were a long ass time ago. Maybe if we were setting multiple records each year we'd have some evidence of actual change on a constant basis, but that's not the case. There's a cyclical aspect to weather and climate that often gets ignored because it is an inconvenient truth.

They just smooth the past temperatures to tell the necessary stories. If you run a 100 year graph of raw data, there is actually a slight, but statistically significant decrease in temperature. The current data set, which has been adjusted to account for changes in processes and relocation of measuring stations, shows a significant increase. Even the 2000’s have been adjusted down in temperature to make the 2010s cooling disappear.

[wufan]

Here’s a 5 minute video that shows government adjusted temperatures vs actual measured temperatures. Not asking anyone to agree with his conclusions, but the data is real.

https://youtu.be/Z-Oh0ypckJs

[1972Shocker]

Why green energy is not green at all

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/11/why_green_energy_is_not_green_at_all.html

All green energy degrades its environment.

Green energy is very diluted — thus, large areas of land are needed to collect wind and solar energy.

Manufacture, erection, and final disposal of green energy generators uses more energy than they can produce over their short lives.

Greens also worship biomass energy like wood. (Even a caveman can do it)

Greens also promote world hunger by promoting ethanol made from plant foods to replace better motor fuels such as petrol and diesel. The hillbillies of Tennessee were specialists in distilling corn whiskey, which had many uses for recreation and medicine. Others found that ethanol could be produced from most plant material, especially grains, beets, and sugarcane. So Greens pollute good whiskey with a touch of gasoline to make it unfit for human consumption and then subsidize it and mandate its use in motor vehicles. While some people starve, food is used for motor fuel.

U.S. government biofuel mandates have also made the refining of diesel and other fuels more expensive.

Green energy needs batteries to keep the lights on when wind and solar fail (as they do every day). To charge those batteries while also serving consumers requires a very large increase in generator capacity. This increases the need for more spider webs of landscape-destroying power lines and roads between wind towers, solar farms, "Big Batteries," pumped hydro, and electricity-consumers.

Big Miners love Green Energy and electric cars because that consumes heaps of metals like copper, nickel, lithium, rare earths, cobalt, silicon, aluminum, molybdenum, silver, and steel as well as limestone and gas for producing cement. But every lithium battery in every electric car or bicycle is a spontaneous fire hazard — park them far away from anything flammable.

Finally, we have maybe the biggest green scam of all: Carbon Capture and Burial. Big coal and gas companies love this trick — it will consume far more coal or gas to produce the same usable energy, and the rest is wasted in gas capture, compression, pumping, piping, and disposal. And the whole silly scheme relies on the assumption that the buried gas will stay where it was put.

And what about the COP27 climate jamboree? Four hundred private jets attended. Even Saint Greta thinks it is a scam.

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Personally, I do think we can make progress with clean energy and renewable sources if we give real science and the resulting technoogies a chance to work. But that will take more time and patience than the climate grifters are willing to allow. So they will use force to get their way, just as they did with the disastrous covid response.

[WstateU]

No, they couldn't stop at cow farts...

New Zealand targets cow burps to help reduce global warming | AP News

[pinstripers]

https://twitter.com/BernieSpofforth/status/1593586447319289860

I remember this

[Shockm]

Why green energy is not green at all

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...en_at_all.html

All green energy degrades its environment.

Green energy is very diluted — thus, large areas of land are needed to collect wind and solar energy.

Manufacture, erection, and final disposal of green energy generators uses more energy than they can produce over their short lives.

Greens also worship biomass energy like wood. (Even a caveman can do it)

Greens also promote world hunger by promoting ethanol made from plant foods to replace better motor fuels such as petrol and diesel. The hillbillies of Tennessee were specialists in distilling corn whiskey, which had many uses for recreation and medicine. Others found that ethanol could be produced from most plant material, especially grains, beets, and sugarcane. So Greens pollute good whiskey with a touch of gasoline to make it unfit for human consumption and then subsidize it and mandate its use in motor vehicles. While some people starve, food is used for motor fuel.

U.S. government biofuel mandates have also made the refining of diesel and other fuels more expensive.

Green energy needs batteries to keep the lights on when wind and solar fail (as they do every day). To charge those batteries while also serving consumers requires a very large increase in generator capacity. This increases the need for more spider webs of landscape-destroying power lines and roads between wind towers, solar farms, "Big Batteries," pumped hydro, and electricity-consumers.

Big Miners love Green Energy and electric cars because that consumes heaps of metals like copper, nickel, lithium, rare earths, cobalt, silicon, aluminum, molybdenum, silver, and steel as well as limestone and gas for producing cement. But every lithium battery in every electric car or bicycle is a spontaneous fire hazard — park them far away from anything flammable.

Finally, we have maybe the biggest green scam of all: Carbon Capture and Burial. Big coal and gas companies love this trick — it will consume far more coal or gas to produce the same usable energy, and the rest is wasted in gas capture, compression, pumping, piping, and disposal. And the whole silly scheme relies on the assumption that the buried gas will stay where it was put.

And what about the COP27 climate jamboree? Four hundred private jets attended. Even Saint Greta thinks it is a scam.

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Personally, I do think we can make progress with clean energy and renewable sources if we give real science and the resulting technoogies a chance to work. But that will take more time and patience than the climate grifters are willing to allow. So they will use force to get their way, just as they did with the disastrous covid response.

This fits in the climate warming thread too. Sam still hasn't been extradited from the Bahama's yet, but I think they are working on it.

The Bankman-Fried family (especially Gabe Bankman-Fried) is giving to these leftwing global warming causes too (global warming policies, pandemic vaccine policies, racism, etc.) so I will post this here too.

Sam B-F's family has been very left wing, and has organized donors to the far left wing of the Democrat Party for years. His father (Joseph Bankman) and mother (Barbara Fried) are Law Professor's at Stanford Law School, and his brother (Gabe Bankman-Fried) has followed suit with his family as well. They have paid to push left wing pandemic policies, climate policies, Ukraine policies, and help people like Elizabeth Warren for years. These policies would be perceived by most Americans as ultra left wing.

https://wfin.com/fox-political-news/...power-players/

FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried’s family boasts deep ties to Democrat power players

His brother, Gabe B-F has helped raise over $27 Million to funnel to Democrat Power players.

[wufan]

For those that are interested, here’s a 12 min vid that better explains the temperature adjustments made by NOAA, including the legitimate reasons for which this might be done.

https://youtu.be/bWBZhd5Yc2g

[SubGod22]

Machine Recycles Plastic Bottles into 3D Printer Filament-And the Design was Released, Instead of Patented

The mission of the James Dyson Award is simple: Design something that solves a problem.

No one will be surprised, then, that the Polyformer machine won a grand prize because it expertly solves two problems at once.

The young co-inventors, Reiten Cheng and Swaleh Owais, designed the Polyformer to achieve two goals: to tackle plastic waste, and figure out how to turn it into low-cost filament for 3D printing, which would be a boon for developing countries.

3D printer filament can be a costly purchase for many creators and hobbyists, but this is particularly true for those who live in developing countries—where plastic waste is plentiful.

Owais, who studied at McMaster University in Canada, said the cost of importing a standard roll of 3D printer filament into Rwanda was retailing for over $60, whereas the same 1kg / 2.2-lb roll can be purchased in Canada for a fraction of that price.

The Polyformer machine can convert a standard 500ml plastic bottle (1/2 quart size) into 3/4 ounce of print filament (20 grams).

Another fantastic part of this story is the fact that Polyformer’s design itself is an open-source project. Instead of applying for a patent, Cheng and Owais released all the CAD, code, and building instructions, offering it to the public on the team’s discord website, so anyone can put it together.

Another way to eliminate waste and repurpose it to something beneficial.

[Kung Wu]

Another way to eliminate waste and repurpose it to something beneficial.

Oh crap, my son and I gotta build that. Just joined their discord. Thanks!

[SubGod22]

Leviathan Engineering Project Turns Two Swiss Reservoirs into World's Largest 'Water Battery' to Power Southern Europe

Next week a revolutionary new form of energy storage will debut in Switzerland after 14 years of engineering and installation.

With a storage capacity of 20 million kilowatt hours, enough to store the energy from wind, solar, nuclear or hydro and channel it to nearly 1 million homes, the Nant de Drance hydro-electric plant is ready to change the energy picture for Southern Europe.

The logistics of the Nant de Drance 900 megawatt “water battery” will blow one’s mind to read about, and involves the carving of 14 miles of tunnels under the Swiss alps in order to assemble massive prefabricated turbines and pumps around a pair of water reservoirs 1,800 feet underground.

Located under the Emosson and Vieux Emosson in the Swiss Canton of Valais, it’s Europe’s largest water battery, consists of six 150-megawatt Francis turbine-generators, and cost nearly $2 billion to complete.

But how does a water battery work, and what exactly is it? Electricity can be generated through heat, but also through kinetic energy. In considering the latter, rewenable energy storage devices take advantage of the fact that electricity can be “stored” by using its excess to move an object—in this case water.

Water from one large pool is pumped into another large pool in an underground chamber above. In this way electricity is “stored” in the sense that when power is needed in the homes of Switzerland, the water is then pumped through hydroelectric turbines to the chamber below with nothing other than the force of gravity.

The electricity generated from the kinetic energy of the falling water into the turbines is like the discharging of a battery—400,000 car batteries in the case of Nant de Drance.

Sounds like another fascinating project, though quite expensive. The article also mentions another similar project in Scotland.

[Shockm]

Biden signs up America for Climate Reparations to pay off poor countries so they don't try to develop and become richer. Will this actually help them or hurt them?

https://www.nujournal.com/opinion/2022/11/28/climate-reparations-are-insanity-they-will-hurt-poor-nations-most/

[Shockm]

https://www.foxnews.com/media/bjorn-...climate-change

Bjorn Lomborg: The left should stop 'scaring our kids witless' about climate change

WSJ calls out Biden administration's attempts to censor social media posts exposing true costs of climate change policy

Author Bjorn Lomborg joined "America's Newsroom" to discuss Big Tech companies acting to help the Biden administration by stifling debate on climate change. The president of the Copenhagen Consensus Center responded Wednesday to a piece by the Wall Street Editorial Board calling out White House national climate adviser Gina McCarthy for wanting to "censor content on the costs of a force-fed green energy transition."

BJORN LOMBORG: Well, it seems to me that the tech companies would love to just simply say we're only saying nice, good, politically correct stuff. But of course, that's not what the tech companies and a free debate is about. It's about saying the true stories. And sometimes the true story is exactly the opposite of what the standard narrative is. Look, global warming is real, but it's not the end of the world. We should not scare our kids witless. And likewise, it's not going to be cheap. It's going to be fantastically expensive. Almost all studies show this. And we need to be honest about this. Most people are not going to put up with actually doing that. And of course, it leads to bad policies that will ultimately both fail and not deal with climate change and of course, take money away from everything else.