Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

[wufan]

I honestly don't know what this means at all. I don't mean that socialism and capitalism are apples and oranges. I mean that inserting communism (a strict authoritarian political structure) as a comparison for socialism (an economic model that exists on a spectrum) is apples to oranges. I truthfully do not get the rest of your analogy at all.



Yes, pure capitalism is deeply flawed. So is socialism at its extreme. The vast majority of reasonable people in this country agree. But that is my point. The stupid point that started this entire conversation. It's crazy to just say socialists are all ignorant or socialists all hate the rich when we can't even agree on what makes a person a "socialist." You and CB seem to think that if I love EVERYTHING about our current economic model except I also believe we should have universal healthcare that I am a socialist. Aside from anything else, that is absurd. In a country that has public education, significant numbers of federal and state entitlements, minimum wages, labor regulations, food and drug regulations, progressive income taxes, taxes on capital gains, etc., the breaking point is if we simply expand existing Medicare coverage? But even if that is true, THAT version "socialism" is as far removed from the evil regimes you are saying killed millions as our current economic system is removed from a system that allows slavery and privatized conflict over limited resources.



Seriously? Free market countries OUTLAWED slavery. That is not a capitalistic action. Surely you are willing to admit that, right? That is a government regulation of a free market system. That is not capitalistic whatsoever. Pure, unadulterated capitalism allows slavery. You don't have to champion pure, unadulterated capitalism. It's not our economic model and it never has been. But pure capitalism 100% allows slavery.



That is one spicy, irrelevant, hot take.

Yes capitalist countries banned slavery. They didn’t ban it because it was anti-capitalist, they banned it because it was anti-individual liberty. Capitalism is an economic system based on liberty. It allows for the greatest amount of Liberty, but it’s liberty first, then capitalism. The dictatorships prevelant in the 1800s had no such sentiment for individual freedoms, therefore slavery fit into their economic system.

[Awesome Sauce Malone]

Yes capitalist countries banned slavery. They didn’t ban it because it was anti-capitalist, they banned it because it was anti-individual liberty. Capitalism is an economic system based on liberty. It allows for the greatest amount of Liberty, but it’s liberty first, then capitalism. The dictatorships prevelant in the 1800s had no such sentiment for individual freedoms, therefore slavery fit into their economic system.

[ShockingButTrue]

Hi A Sauce...

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One Love, yo.

#UNITY

[ShockingButTrue]

"Anything is possible"

[abdullah_sharif]

i cant believe that new york city pissed this opportunity away.. ya ya the state and city were going to give about 3bil away in tax incentives, but the area that they were going was one of their "economically disadvantaged areas with tax incentives available".. based on new york tax rates (assuming employees are single, and since singles pay the highest tax rates per dollar of income) the city would have received tax revenue back in excess of the tax incentives in approximately 13 years. this is based solely on income tax.. throw in sales tax and it'd probably shave another couple years off the estimate.

i'm no fan of cities and states throwing money at companies, but if others are doing so, one must consider participating or be left behind.

is new york really open for business?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB5tJwS-3zw

[ShockingButTrue]

Not Fake News (she don't need no stinking facts)

[wufan]

I don’t get it either. A tax code is set up. A good business will conduct their activities so as to reduce costs associated with the tax burden.

It sure seems like a flat tax without deduction would be the most free and fair system available.

[abdullah_sharif]

the flat tax wouldn't be "fair" though wufan. that would mean that the bottom 47% would have to start paying their fair share.

[wufan]

I’m okay with a flat deduction up to the poverty line and setting minimum wage for a 40 hour/week job at the poverty line.

[im4wsu]

Can we rename this thread as "Humor II"?

[ShockingButTrue]

https://www.westernjournal.com/hs-junior-cj-pearson-lashes-ocasio-cortez-anyone-boss-people/?utm_source=push&utm_medium=conservativetribune&utm_content=2019-02-26&utm_campaign=manualpost

This conservative would disagree.

[RoyalShock]

If AOC gets any traction I fear it will mark the beginning of the end for our republic.

[ShockingButTrue]

It seems that the end of our Republic started on 7-5-16, 4 months before the election. It was a "scorched earth policy" decision.

[ShockingButTrue]

Can we rename this thread as "Humor II"?

[abdullah_sharif]

If aoc is so green, why is she drinking “smartwater” that is not only in a plastic bottle but also trucked hundreds of miles creating excess greenhouse gases that she is so opposed to? Take some hints from al gore.. and..........

https://www.marieclaire.com/celebrity/a25844313/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-boyfriend-riley-roberts/

go back to bartending little girl.

[pinstripers]

..........

[abdullah_sharif]

we can hope that she is becoming irrelevant

[im4wsu]

Pondering whether she is less harmful in Congress where she is subject to some scrutiny and rebuttal or if she is turned loose on her own (not re-elected) where she can say whatever she wishes, unencymbered, and where the press can idolize her as the upcoming candidate of choice.

[C0|dB|00ded]

T


...:cool:

[wufan]

Careful. Sharing this on the wrong media platform will get you banned for spreading fake news...interestingly, AOC taught me that garbage disposals have been banned in NYC for over 20 years. WTF?

[abdullah_sharif]

she forgot to mention all of the cockroaches and rats in her nyc apartment.

girl needs to get out more.

[RoyalShock]

I thought this was funny:

[abdullah_sharif]

i think she looks confused...

[ShockingButTrue]