KC Chiefs Offseason Discussion

[ShoxFan963]

I'll get this thread going with the news that Matt Cassel gets to go to the Pro Bowl for Tom Brady.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ycn-7664216

Chiefs have the 21st pick in the draft this year. A #2 WR is a huge need. I could see us trading up for Julio Jones or AJ Green.

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

I think they go "D"

But should trade up, get #1 WR.

[ShoxFan963]

Three needs that stick out:

-#2 Wideout, need someone to draw attention from Bowe and even the running game.

-Interior Lineman, let's face it, Waters, Weigman, and Lilja aren't getting any younger.

-DE/OLB combo, need someone to compliment Hali and strengthen rush defense. Vrabel is getting pretty old as well.

A special teams specialist is something that would be nice to have besides McGraw and Copper.

With only a few major needs, we will more than likely be trading up for a WR or an Hali type of defender.

[newshock1234]

I vote NT, I think this is by far their biggest need

[RampageWSU]

#1 WR (we already have a #2), Interior Line, OLB.

[The Mad Hatter]

#1 WR (we already have a #2), Interior Line, OLB.

Are you really calling Bowe (#1 in touchdown receptions and #7 in yards) a #2 receiver?

[ShoxFan963]

I vote NT, I think this is by far their biggest need

Really? I thought Dorsey had made some strides from last year. He's not quite there yet, but give him another year.

[newshock1234]

I vote NT, I think this is by far their biggest need

Really? I thought Dorsey had made some strides from last year. He's not quite there yet, but give him another year.

Dorsey is not a NT in a 3-4, hes a DE, a NT in a 3-4 defense needs to be about 350 and be able to take on a couple blockers so the ILB can make plays.

[ShoxFan963]

I vote NT, I think this is by far their biggest need

Really? I thought Dorsey had made some strides from last year. He's not quite there yet, but give him another year.

Dorsey is not a NT in a 3-4, hes a DE, a NT in a 3-4 defense needs to be about 350 and be able to take on a couple blockers so the ILB can make plays.

A 300 lb pound DE? Woah! :shock:

I agree, he should gain some more weight, but easier said than done. He gets the job done for the most part. A DT definitely isn't the number one need right now.

[newshock1234]

I vote NT, I think this is by far their biggest need

Really? I thought Dorsey had made some strides from last year. He's not quite there yet, but give him another year.

Dorsey is not a NT in a 3-4, hes a DE, a NT in a 3-4 defense needs to be about 350 and be able to take on a couple blockers so the ILB can make plays.

A 300 lb pound DE? Woah! :shock:

I agree, he should gain some more weight, but easier said than done. He gets the job done for the most part. A DT definitely isn't the number one need right now.

yes a 3-4 DE are around 290- 300, right now our starting nose tackle is Ron Edwards which is ok, but we need an improvement there. But for the 3-4 defense to be good they need a big nose tackle in the middle to take on multiple blockers. 3-4 DE are alot different than 4-3 DE, 4-3 DE are your primarily press rushers, and in 3-4 DE the OLB linebackers are your primarily pass rushers, as Tamba Hali was for us this year.

[newshock1234]

and btw if you dont believe me that he wasnt our starting Defense End this year, then just look at our depth chart this year.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/team/depth-chart.html

[WSUShokker]

Well I think Dorsey played more tackle this year than DE as Tamba Hali usually was the guy with his hand on the ground. I cant say for sure but I feel like we played alot of 4 man fronts against 21 personnel (2 te and 1 rb) and even 11 personel. This is probably becuase Tyson hasnt progessed as fast as we would of liked him to have.

[SubGod22]

Dorsey was a DE and Hali an OLB. Just because Hali rushes a lot with a hand on the ground doesn't change that. DT used to do the same thing from his LB position.

[ShockBand]

I loved that with DT - it was like the football version of the called shot.

[SubGod22]

And not only that, but Hali has been a DE for a long time and it's probably a comfort thing with him.





I miss watching DT play.