New Name for Off-Topic Forum

[WuDrWu]

In my mind, Obama/Biden was clearly the lesser of the two evils. It is sad that when you go to cast your vote, you have to vote for the person you feel will screw the country up lesser than the other one. I had no confidence in either candidates. When McCain chose Palin as his running mate, that was the nail in the coffin for me, with respect to him.

You're right about 1 thing. It is sad.

Palin was the nail, eh? That's funny on a variety of fronts. :good:

Serious question here SC. You (along with the lefties here and well everywhere) love to bash President George W. Bush.

Can you give me, say, 5 examples of things he did or was responsible for during his 8 years in office that anger you so much? I honestly would like to know. I would think that coming up with 5, as big a buffoon as you say he is, would be simple. If you could mix in one thing you liked about him, that would be great as well.

I'll go for the current President.

1) I don't like that he overturned the Mexico City Policy.

2) The stimulus package was poorly done at best, and a complete disaster at worse.

3) The idea that you can have a substantive debate about health care reform (something that I think the vast majority would agree needs to happen) without discussing, even once, tort reform is disingenuous at best.

4) Please don't apologize for me overseas Mr. President. You want to say you are sorry for something, fine. If I want to apologize to Europe for the "sins of our fathers" then we can do so at Omaha and only after hommage is paid to the few hundred thousand or so that died for them. That particular bill, my friends, will NEVER be repaid.

5) Car bailouts. Knuckleheadedness at it's finest.

6) His political movement away from supporting Israel is unfathomable and idiotic.

7) Sorry, I had to add one more that goes to what I believe is a real shortcoming, so far, for this President. He often times is not very presidential. The comment about the police acting stupidly was, ironically, stupid. Even if he was spot on (clearly he was totally wrong anyway) it was a stupid thing to say, especially for POTUS.


Now, I'll give you three things I have liked so far. I liked his reaction to Biden gagging himself yet again by firmly placing his head directly up his ass where it is so often resides. He knew it was wrong and tried to get jackass Joe back on point. Well done.

I liked the Making Work Pay part of the stimulus. Across the board it looks good.

And I liked the cigarette tax increase. My only issue with it, as I have pointed out, is that it goes against his promises during the campaign (you have to know I wish he'd break a few more) for all the masses that think he can do no wrong. Also, I wish he and his ilk, if they believe that if it's going to curtail smoking, then do what really needs to be done. Make the tax $100 or $1000 per pack. That will get people to stop smoking. Not $1 per pack. That's just more money for the government to spend.....Oh. Ok.

[RockChalkWUShock]

Here is a start.

http://www.publicintegrity.org/investigations/broken_government/articles/full_list/

I think that there are 128 reasons on here. Most likely I could find 5 that I agree with.

I did like that he was a funny man, and I did like my big tax break/write-off for purchasing a big SUV as a business expense.

[WuDrWu]

Here is a start.

http://www.publicintegrity.org/investigations/broken_government/articles/full_list/

I think that there are 128 reasons on here. Most likely I could find 5 that I agree with.

I did like that he was a funny man, and I did like my big tax break/write-off for purchasing a big SUV as a business expense.

Without sounding like an ass, I didn't ask for anyone to Google what someone else doesn't like and then agree. Frankly, that's part of the problem. I want YOUR thoughts....I've had enough with what the talking heads think. Think for yourself for a change.

This might be the perfect tragic irony.

[ISASO]

I'm no fan of McCain either. It's more than obvious that he was, is and will be, the lesser of both evils.

We agree to disagree on this one. In my mind, Obama/Biden was clearly the lesser of the two evils. It is sad that when you go to cast your vote, you have to vote for the person you feel will screw the country up lesser than the other one. I had no confidence in either candidates. When McCain chose Palin as his running mate, that was the nail in the coffin for me, with respect to him.

So, you're only going to pick one sentence out of my post and comment on it. Would you care to answer the question at the end of my post?

[ShockCity]

I'm no fan of McCain either. It's more than obvious that he was, is and will be, the lesser of both evils.

We agree to disagree on this one. In my mind, Obama/Biden was clearly the lesser of the two evils. It is sad that when you go to cast your vote, you have to vote for the person you feel will screw the country up lesser than the other one. I had no confidence in either candidates. When McCain chose Palin as his running mate, that was the nail in the coffin for me, with respect to him.

So, you're only going to pick one sentence out of my post and comment on it. Would you care to answer the question at the end of my post?

Nah, I don't feel the need to answer you.

[Shocker85]

Back to the title of this thread…Recently I visited another fan message board and liked how they had separate forums for politics and off-topic threads (all other stuff if you will). I think that works well for those who might or might not be interested in the political discussion.

Agreed!

The right vs. left, Obama vs. McCain, etc. bickering bores me. I'd like a place to go that is devoid of political discussion.

Shockernet is where I get my Shocker Athletics fix. Threads about WSU that aren't directly related to sports, or threads about sports that aren't WSU usually wind-up in the Off Topic forum are of interest to me, too, but tend to get lost in the morass of political threads.

You have the right to your political opinions and to express them. Having a "special" place for that sounds good.

--'85.

[SpanglerFan316]

If more people truly "got it" there would be rioting in the streets.

Just wait until the volleyball team wins the national championship. Or the basketball team. Or the baseball team. :D

[RockChalkWUShock]

WuDrWu wrote:

Can you give me, say, 5 examples of things he did or was responsible for during his 8 years in office that anger you so much? I honestly would like to know. I would think that coming up with 5, as big a buffoon as you say he is, would be simple. If you could mix in one thing you liked about him that would be great as well.


Without sounding like an ass, I didn't ask for anyone to Google what someone else doesn't like and then agree. Frankly, that's part of the problem. I want YOUR thoughts....I've had enough with what the talking heads think. Think for yourself for a change.

Without sounding like an ass, I did mention that I could find 5, out of the list. I did mention something good. So the definition of "thinking for yourself" is regurgitating what someone else tells you and then not providing substantiation for your view point. Everything you typed you could find in 30 seconds of Google searching. The funny thing is that because you typed in first person you think that what you write is original thought.

[ShockCity]

So the definition of "thinking for yourself" is regurgitating what someone else tells you and then not providing substantiation for your view point. Everything you typed you could find in 30 seconds of Google searching. The funny thing is that because you typed in first person you think that what you write is original thought.

Ding ding ding, we have a winner!!! Wu and people of his ilk, think that they are making these huge proclamations and saying something original, when in fact it is stuff that is puked out daily by the right wing spinmeisters. It is so hypocritical and it is time some on here got off their high horse.

[ABC]

Don't bother trying to reason. There are still some right wing whack jobs that insist President Obama isn't even a US citizen. :roll:

And there are left wing whack jobs that think 9/11 was an inside job.

Are you one of those?

[ISASO]

I'm no fan of McCain either. It's more than obvious that he was, is and will be, the lesser of both evils.

We agree to disagree on this one. In my mind, Obama/Biden was clearly the lesser of the two evils. It is sad that when you go to cast your vote, you have to vote for the person you feel will screw the country up lesser than the other one. I had no confidence in either candidates. When McCain chose Palin as his running mate, that was the nail in the coffin for me, with respect to him.

So, you're only going to pick one sentence out of my post and comment on it. Would you care to answer the question at the end of my post?

Nah, I don't feel the need to answer you.

So, you're indifferent about "Change" that wrecks our society, our values, our justice and our Judeo-Christian foundation? You're basically OK with it?

[martymoose]

Re: New Name for Off-Topic Forum

I think we should name it the "Whine about President Obama because McCain didn't win" forum. :D

How did I miss this thread?

That name is excellent, or how about...
"The copy and paste link after link after link after link after link after link after link after link after link after link after link after link after link about crap only 2 or 3 posters seem to care about forum"

Seriously, I know I've said it 1000 times, but this sour grapes shiat is getting extremely old. Let's move on, if you want to cry and talk this much politices, join a "Republicans with nothing better to do than post on message boards" forum.

[ShockCity]

Re: New Name for Off-Topic Forum

I think we should name it the "Whine about President Obama because McCain didn't win" forum. :D

How did I miss this thread?

That name is excellent, or how about...
"The copy and paste link after link after link after link after link after link after link after link after link after link after link after link after link about crap only 2 or 3 posters seem to care about forum"

Seriously, I know I've said it 1000 times, but this sour grapes shiat is getting extremely old. Let's move on, if you want to cry and talk this much politices, join a "Republicans with nothing better to do than post on message boards" forum.

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!! Excellent my friend. :clap: :good:

[SFL]

Re: New Name for Off-Topic Forum

I think we should name it the "Whine about President Obama because McCain didn't win" forum. :D

How did I miss this thread?

That name is excellent, or how about...
"The copy and paste link after link after link after link after link after link after link after link after link after link after link after link after link about crap only 2 or 3 posters seem to care about forum"

Seriously, I know I've said it 1000 times, but this sour grapes shiat is getting extremely old. Let's move on, if you want to cry and talk this much politices, join a "Republicans with nothing better to do than post on message boards" forum.

Here's to you Marty! :D

[shoxlax]

Re: New Name for Off-Topic Forum

I think we should name it the "Whine about President Obama because McCain didn't win" forum. :D

How did I miss this thread?

That name is excellent, or how about...
"The copy and paste link after link after link after link after link after link after link after link after link after link after link after link after link about crap only 2 or 3 posters seem to care about forum"

Seriously, I know I've said it 1000 times, but this sour grapes shiat is getting extremely old. Let's move on, if you want to cry and talk this much politices, join a "Republicans with nothing better to do than post on message boards" forum.

..and if you want to move on, then quit reading it.