Sebelius to be picked for Health and Human Services position

[1979Shocker]

New York Times: Sebelius is President's choice for HHS

WASHINGTON - The New York Times is reporting that Governor Kathleen Sebelius is the President's top choice for Health and Human Services Secretary. The paper cites unnamed advisers.

[KC Shox]

Good riddance, she's run this state into the ground.

[1979Shocker]

Here's some more news. There's supposed to be an announcement Monday.

Obama taps Sebelius for health secretary

[BenWSU]

Seems like cabinet positions are more political than ever.

HHS nominee should be a doctor that`s worked in the medical field for years that knows things instead of a politician thats friends with the president.

[ShockerGorilla]

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HEY HEY, GOODBYE!!!

[BostonWu]

What happened with her initial concern over the state of affairs in Kansas? Thanks for the mess Kathleen.

[WuDrWu]

What happened with her initial concern over the state of affairs in Kansas? Thanks for the mess Kathleen.

What happened? Power and arrogance, that's what happened.

I've met Kathleen. She is very intelligent. I believe she is misguided in some of her beliefs but I think for the most part she believes what she has done is in the best interest of her constituents.

However, I think she has been blinded by the shining light of our President and now wants to be a part of all the great and good in the new world order.

Her job as a Democratic leader in a Republican state was tough, no doubt. She just abandoned that job in favor of a different job that is clearly outside her field of strength.

May God help us all.

[kcshocker11]

What happened with her initial concern over the state of affairs in Kansas? Thanks for the mess Kathleen.

What happened? Power and arrogance, that's what happened.

I've met Kathleen. She is very intelligent. I believe she is misguided in some of her beliefs but I think for the most part she believes what she has done is in the best interest of her constituents.

However, I think she has been blinded by the shining light of our President and now wants to be a part of all the great and good in the new world order.

Her job as a Democratic leader in a Republican state was tough, no doubt. She just abandoned that job in favor of a different job that is clearly outside her field of strength.



May God help us all.

Why Doc, kind words about a Dem. I didnt think you had it in you. :D 8)

[SubGod22]

Sebelius to face opposition to nomination. Not that it'll do any good. Hopefully the Gov. has been paying her taxes.

[SubGod22]

Poor Howard Dean...

[rrshock]

Sebelius to face opposition to nomination. Not that it'll do any good. Hopefully the Gov. has been paying her taxes.

Nothing that any of us hasn't heard before. And I'm sure nobody will really care in Washington after a while either.

Plus, the thing about Obama losing support from some of the catholics...he was already pro-abortion when he ran, so what does picking Sebelius have to do with losing support?

[1979Shocker]

...he was already pro-abortion when he ran, so what does picking Sebelius have to do with losing support?

I thought he was pro-choice, but I see what you mean. I don't know of anyone that would want all baby's to be aborted, which is what pro-abortion would be. Pro-choice would be a woman's choice of abortion (which I'm against) and pro-life (which a lot of people are for only at birth).

For me, pro-life is not only life for the unborn, but also for those that are already living. In other words, I don't think someone that is pro-life should support a war that takes the life of another human being. If they do, then they're only pro-life for the beginning of someone's life.

[BenWSU]

Think of it this way: Since democrats are pro-abortion, that means less democrats in the future. 8)

[Maggie]

...he was already pro-abortion when he ran, so what does picking Sebelius have to do with losing support?

I thought he was pro-choice, but I see what you mean. I don't know of anyone that would want all baby's to be aborted, which is what pro-abortion would be. Pro-choice would be a woman's choice of abortion (which I'm against) and pro-life (which a lot of people are for only at birth).

For me, pro-life is not only life for the unborn, but also for those that are already living. In other words, I don't think someone that is pro-life should support a war that takes the life of another human being. If they do, then they're only pro-life for the beginning of someone's life.

Huh? I’m not sure I want to do this (I hate this issue) but….

I think you are too hung up on labels. I am fairly certain that someone can be “pro-abortion” without advocating that “all babies” be aborted. Someone, for example, that opposes any and all restrictions on abortions (please refer to President Obama’s nominee for the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel, Dawn Johnson) I would consider to be “pro-abortion”.

If you want to call her “pro-choice” because Ms. Johnson believes there should be no restriction on abortion whatsoever, that is fine too. It is only a matter of perception. People seem to think that being called “pro-choice” sounds better than being “pro-abortion” because who is not in favor of having a right to choose -- but it is really the same thing. It is similar to “liberals” demanding to be called “progressives” in this day and age. In my mind, they are simply “re-gifting” themselves and their ideas to the general public but no matter what package you put it in it is still the same crappy gift.

Incidentally, I believe President Obama’s past record reflects his support for Ms. Johnson’s “general” position as well – although I would hope he does not go as far as she seems to have in making the “pro-abortion/choice” argument.

As for your assertion that anyone professing to be “pro-life” is a hypocrite or somehow inconsistent because they may be in favor of the use of military force that will ultimately result in a loss of life – that, frankly, is quite a stretch.

[ShockerPrez]

[quote="1979Shocker"]

For me, pro-life is not only life for the unborn, but also for those that are already living. In other words, I don't think someone that is pro-life should support a war that takes the life of another human being. If they do, then they're only pro-life for the beginning of someone's life.

The thing about abortion, and this is why you are either for it, or against it, is that there is no parallel to justify your belief. And you seem foolish and ignorant if you try to equate your belief to something else to show consistency.

You cannot equate, the taking of the most innocent and defenseless in this world, to anything else, including war, the death penalty, anything. You cannot do it, because there is nothing as pure as an unborn child.

You either believe that abortion is killing, or you don't. The only variable to be decided in reaching your conclusion is if a fetus is a human life, or not. If you believe that it is, than you have to be against abortion, or else you believe that murder is okay. If you do not believe that a fetus is a human life, than you have the 'wiggle' room to believe in abortion.

At this point, the 'wigglers' begin to make fools of themselves trying to decide at which point a fetus is a child. It is also at this point, where people who try to argue with the 'wigglers' begin to throw in silly parallel's to try and show that they have some pragmatic, guided reasoning other than religious beliefs, because that would make them look like some sort of christian right winger. So they throw in the nice little anti-war thing too, because we all know liberals are anti-war. And actually the majority of people in this country are anti-war, in that we would rather not be in one, but think that it is entirely irresponsible and naive to believe that everyone else in the world wants only the best for us, so war is a necessity from time to time. Oh, and if we're going to be in one, we want our country to win. Always. Not just when our guy is the president.

The worst argument is to equate the life of an unborn child to some ax murdering, rapist SOB who tied up 3 children and made them watch as he hung their mommy up from a ceiling fan before he offed them one by one.

All that needs to be said is, I believe that an unborn child is a life, therefore I am against abortion, and if that is not good enough in your mind, then perhaps you should try and convince yourself before you try and convince others of what you are saying.