Chiefs offseason

[ShoxFan963]

We have bigger issues right now then linebackers; I would love to see how Hali would do at OLB. We need to address our linemen situation and maybe a receiver. I was expecting a DE after the Zach Thomas signing, let's just hope this doesn't come back to bite us...

[ShockerGorilla]

Well, I'm disappointed in this pick. I would love to have seen Curry. He could have been our Ray Lewis or Brian Urlacher. Oh well, perhaps moving Dorsey to his natural position and having Jackson on the end will pay dividends. We will see.

I didn't find it that exciting either. Not sure it is great value but I guess the Chiefs did their best to trade down and it didn't work. Still think I would rather had Curry.

Problem is Curry dont fit the 3-4 scheme, 3-4 DE are very rare. You can find ILB later in the draft. Its not a sexy pick, but its a pick that had to be made, it was a patriots type of pick

Can anyone explain what is different for the personnel for the 3-4 defense and what qualities linemen need to possess to run this defense that is different from the 4-3? I keep hearing over and over that Jackson is a great pick for the 3-4, but he wasn't the top DE available at the time.

[newshock1234]

Well, I'm disappointed in this pick. I would love to have seen Curry. He could have been our Ray Lewis or Brian Urlacher. Oh well, perhaps moving Dorsey to his natural position and having Jackson on the end will pay dividends. We will see.

I didn't find it that exciting either. Not sure it is great value but I guess the Chiefs did their best to trade down and it didn't work. Still think I would rather had Curry.

Problem is Curry dont fit the 3-4 scheme, 3-4 DE are very rare. You can find ILB later in the draft. Its not a sexy pick, but its a pick that had to be made, it was a patriots type of pick

Can anyone explain what is different for the personnel for the 3-4 defense and what qualities linemen need to possess to run this defense that is different from the 4-3? I keep hearing over and over that Jackson is a great pick for the 3-4, but he wasn't the top DE available at the time.

3-4 DE pretty much protect the LB, so we can rush around the tackle. They are generally abour 6'5 and around 290-310. Here is a old article by Michael Smith explaining why 3-4 defense Ends are a must to run the 3-4 defense.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=smith_michael&id=1946758

[SB Shock]

Well, I'm disappointed in this pick. I would love to have seen Curry. He could have been our Ray Lewis or Brian Urlacher. Oh well, perhaps moving Dorsey to his natural position and having Jackson on the end will pay dividends. We will see.

I didn't find it that exciting either. Not sure it is great value but I guess the Chiefs did their best to trade down and it didn't work. Still think I would rather had Curry.

Problem is Curry dont fit the 3-4 scheme, 3-4 DE are very rare. You can find ILB later in the draft. Its not a sexy pick, but its a pick that had to be made, it was a patriots type of pick

Can anyone explain what is different for the personnel for the 3-4 defense and what qualities linemen need to possess to run this defense that is different from the 4-3? I keep hearing over and over that Jackson is a great pick for the 3-4, but he wasn't the top DE available at the time.

With the 3-4 you need to have a good tough NT and big DE's. The goal is for D to force lineman into double-team the 3 downlinemen and then that leave your LB's unblocked to stop the run or blitz the passes. I think why they are high on Jackson is he's got good size and is considered a "5-Technique" DE (i.e. he's used to lineup between the OT and TE).

Question is will the Chiefs go for a DT Gilbert to play nose tackle?

[kcshocker11]

Thought we would have got an OT but this was a suprise

[SubGod22]

This wasn't a surprise but it thrills nobody I've talked to today.

The biggest head scratcher of the day was Oakland though. Darrius Hayward-Bey over Crabtree? What is Al Davis smoking?

[ShoxFan963]

This wasn't a surprise but it thrills nobody I've talked to today.

The biggest head scratcher of the day was Oakland though. Darrius Hayward-Bey over Crabtree? What is Al Davis smoking?

When is the last time he made a good move for this franchise? :lol:

[ShockerGorilla]

Well, I'm disappointed in this pick. I would love to have seen Curry. He could have been our Ray Lewis or Brian Urlacher. Oh well, perhaps moving Dorsey to his natural position and having Jackson on the end will pay dividends. We will see.

I didn't find it that exciting either. Not sure it is great value but I guess the Chiefs did their best to trade down and it didn't work. Still think I would rather had Curry.

Problem is Curry dont fit the 3-4 scheme, 3-4 DE are very rare. You can find ILB later in the draft. Its not a sexy pick, but its a pick that had to be made, it was a patriots type of pick

Can anyone explain what is different for the personnel for the 3-4 defense and what qualities linemen need to possess to run this defense that is different from the 4-3? I keep hearing over and over that Jackson is a great pick for the 3-4, but he wasn't the top DE available at the time.

3-4 DE pretty much protect the LB, so we can rush around the tackle. They are generally abour 6'5 and around 290-310. Here is a old article by Michael Smith explaining why 3-4 defense Ends are a must to run the 3-4 defense.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...ael&id=1946758

Thanks!

[ShockerGorilla]

This wasn't a surprise but it thrills nobody I've talked to today.

The biggest head scratcher of the day was Oakland though. Darrius Hayward-Bey over Crabtree? What is Al Davis smoking?

Isn't medical marijuana legal in California? :)

Al Davis should step down and let someone else be general manager for the sake of the team. However, since I hate the Raiders, this isn't such a bad thing!

[newshock1234]

This wasn't a surprise but it thrills nobody I've talked to today.

The biggest head scratcher of the day was Oakland though. Darrius Hayward-Bey over Crabtree? What is Al Davis smoking?

u see their 2nd round pick, and this is no Joke, they took some safety out of Ohio and Maylock from NFL network said he was projected as a 7th rounder

[ShoxFan963]

Q: What are your emotions right now?

TYSON JACKSON: “Right now I am just so proud that the Kansas City Chiefs selected with the third pick. I have a roller coaster going through my body right now. I am going to come down there and give them everything I possibly have on the football field and in the community and try and make the Kansas City Chiefs a better place.”

Q: How much contact did you have with the Chiefs prior to today?

JACKSON: “I spoke with them a few times at the combine. I came to visit the Chiefs in Missouri. Not too much from there. I just look forward to getting to know all the coaches on the coaching staff and the players.”

Q: Do you have a preference in playing the 3-4 or 4-3?

JACKSON: “I don’t mind. I consider myself a complete football player, so either a 4-3 or a 3-4. I can always get used to that 3-4 and get adjusted to it. Once I learn the playbook it is on. It is nothing but football.”

...Continued Q & A

Notes on Tyson Jackson

[SB Shock]

ESPN John Clayton on the draft:

Denver rookie head coach Josh McDaniels doesn't have a grasp on how to build a team. He signed three running backs in free agency and drafted another (Knowshon Moreno). And then he sent Denver's first-round choice in 2010 to Seattle for this year's 37th overall choice, which he used to pick cornerback Alphonso Smith. That's bizarre. Mike Shanahan must be laughing at that one.

The best move for Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli was not trading defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey to Atlanta. Giving Dorsey and Tony Gonzalez to the Falcons might have made the Falcons the favorites for the Super Bowl. It was no surprise Pioli took a defensive end, Tyson Jackson, in the first round. Like New England, his former employer, Pioli wants to build a strong defensive line.

Another article from ESPN on Chiefs

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/columns/story?columnist=chadiha_jeffri&id=4100778

There was no mistaking what Scott Pioli wanted to do with his first pick as general manager of the Kansas City Chiefs.

He wasn't looking for a player who would be a sexy pick. He also claims he wasn't looking to enhance his reputation as a master trader on draft day. Instead, Pioli only cared about finding a player who fit the image he has for this team. On Saturday afternoon, Pioli tried convincing everybody that LSU defensive end Tyson Jackson was that guy...


"He's a big, long, strong player who plays sideline to sideline," Haley said. "Those guys don't grow on trees."

[newshock1234]

Q: What are your emotions right now?

TYSON JACKSON: “Right now I am just so proud that the Kansas City Chiefs selected with the third pick. I have a roller coaster going through my body right now. I am going to come down there and give them everything I possibly have on the football field and in the community and try and make the Kansas City Chiefs a better place.”

Q: How much contact did you have with the Chiefs prior to today?

JACKSON: “I spoke with them a few times at the combine. I came to visit the Chiefs in Missouri. Not too much from there. I just look forward to getting to know all the coaches on the coaching staff and the players.”

Q: Do you have a preference in playing the 3-4 or 4-3?

JACKSON: “I don’t mind. I consider myself a complete football player, so either a 4-3 or a 3-4. I can always get used to that 3-4 and get adjusted to it. Once I learn the playbook it is on. It is nothing but football.”

...Continued Q & A

Notes on Tyson Jackson

He sounds like a nice respectful person

[SubGod22]

The Chiefs just selected DT Alex McGee from Purdue.

[newshock1234]

The Chiefs just selected DT Alex McGee from Purdue.

another great pick, I like that Pioli is trying to build up that D Line.