Powell Endorses Obama for President

[ShockBand]

We should have taken care of business in Afghanistan first, which, BTW, we still haven't.

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We should have taken care of business in Afghanistan first, which, BTW, we still haven't.

The war in Afghanistan was American's war, The war in Iraq was W's.


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looks like the liberal kool-aid drinkers are in full force tonight.
I know I know, Saddam was a great guy, he never sponsored terrorists, and none of the democRATS thought he had WMD's right?

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looks like the liberal kool-aid drinkers are in full force tonight.
I know I know, Saddam was a great guy, he never sponsored terrorists, and none of the democRATS thought he had WMD's right?

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[rayc]

No one and I mean NO ONE was more puzzled and surprised than I was when we went into Iraq.

However, every Democrat (and Republican) politician of note is on record as to believing Saddam posessed WMD's and/or their means of production at that time. To say otherwise is just the usual revisionist rewrite of history politicans and their shills are fond of doing.

[WuDrWu]

I know some of you like to believe Oliver Stone as God.....he's not.

Just because it makes it to the movie theatre doesn't mean it's fact.


I suppose next we'll start quoting Micheal Moore as fact.


I'm going to let a few of you in on a little secret. Hussein DID have wmds.

He did! Get it? Not maybe...he DID. He used them on HIS OWN PEOPLE.

He was required to disarm and destroy them under the watchful eye of others..he refused. Yes, we didn't find them. He may of in fact destroyed them himself before we overran him and his terrorist leadership.

I don't care.....he had them....he would have continued to develop and use them. That scenario is no longer a concern.

Next

[WuDrWu]

Of course if Obama had been in charge, Saddam Hussien would still be in power, he'd have gassed a few dozen thousand (more) Kurds (including a few poor women and children that might have voted for him in Ohio) and there is a small chance that he might have gotten a little frisky and lobbed an improved scud towards Israel which would have launched us directly into WWIII with at least 3 middle eastern countries achieving 10,000 centigrade within 2 seconds when Israel reacted.

[SubGod22]

Technically they did find some old WMDs. They just weren't as new or stockpiled like some believed.

[DUShock]

Technically they did find some old WMDs. They just weren't as new or stockpiled like some believed.

Say again over.

[ABC]

Is the world a better place without Saddam? Of course.

It is a legitimate debate, that might never be resolved, whether it was worth the blood and treasure the US, Great Britain and others have paid.

The debate whether Ike should have taken Berlin is still being tossed around, 60 years later.

[Maggie]

I personally don’t blame those, Democrat and Republican, that voted to give the President the power to invade Iraq the second time around. Both sides made legitimate arguments and despite what we were told – I had serious reservations about the invasion.

That being said, I think that the Monday morning quarterbacking – much of which was entirely predictable is a bit unfair. We should be focusing about how to resolve the current situation.

[DUShock]

looks like the liberal kool-aid drinkers are in full force tonight.
I know I know, Saddam was a great guy, he never sponsored terrorists, and none of the democRATS thought he had WMD's right?

DD I think you're straying from your lane. The issue regarding Iraq strategy is not one between the left & right but rather is a discussion focused solely on the right. The discussion is between conservative "pragmatists" and conservative "Neo-cons". I am a pragmatist. Regardless of retired General Powell's endorsement, I respect his judgment and service to the nation. He was commander in chief for my first tour through southern Iraq at the age of 21. I for one am grateful that Bush Senior crafted a policy of overwhelming force to reach our objective. I have been very VERY critical of the events that occurred after the session of hostility having seen people rounded up and carted off knowing full well what was coming next. Sadly that is the truth in the real world, world shaded very gray. Not black. Not white. But gray.

General Powell may well have offended many in the party, so be it. I look at it this way, IF Obama is elected President, and he’ll be my President. In a society under the rule of law it is part of the "social contract" we make for choosing to live in the United States. IF BO is elected, at least I can hope he'll seek the wise counsel of men such as General Powell, if not General Powell himself thus ensuring that my personal philosophy (Conservative Pragmatic Foreign Policy) is influencing decisions at the highest level.

To understand why this is my philosophy please do several tours with an ODA and/or advisor posting with foreign forces, perhaps then you might at least understand and acknowledge the validity of a pragmatic foreign policy position.

"I didn't vote for him, but he's my president, and I hope he does a good job."

These were Duke's (John Wayne) words after JFK defeated Richard Nixon in the 1960 election

[kcshocker11]

looks like the liberal kool-aid drinkers are in full force tonight.
I know I know, Saddam was a great guy, he never sponsored terrorists, and none of the democRATS thought he had WMD's right?

DD I think you're straying from your lane. The issue regarding Iraq strategy is not one between the left & right but rather is a discussion focused solely on the right. The discussion is between conservative "pragmatists" and conservative "Neo-cons". I am a pragmatist. Regardless of retired General Powell's endorsement, I respect his judgment and service to the nation. He was commander in chief for my first tour through southern Iraq at the age of 21. I for one am grateful that Bush Senior crafted a policy of overwhelming force to reach our objective. I have been very VERY critical of the events that occurred after the session of hostility having seen people rounded up and carted off knowing full well what was coming next. Sadly that is the truth in the real world, world shaded very gray. Not black. Not white. But gray.

General Powell may well have offended many in the party, so be it. I look at it this way, IF Obama is elected President, and he’ll be my President. In a society under the rule of law it is part of the "social contract" we make for choosing to live in the United States. IF BO is elected, at least I can hope he'll seek the wise counsel of men such as General Powell, if not General Powell himself thus ensuring that my personal philosophy (Conservative Pragmatic Foreign Policy) is influencing decisions at the highest level.

To understand why this is my philosophy please do several tours with an ODA and/or advisor posting with foreign forces, perhaps then you might at least understand and acknowledge the validity of a pragmatic foreign policy position.

"I didn't vote for him, but he's my president, and I hope he does a good job."

These were Duke's (John Wayne) words after JFK defeated Richard Nixon in the 1960 election

Good for you DU a nicely thought out post!
Gotta love the Duke! 8)

[Shirley Schmidt]

These words from John Wayne came a little earlier than 1960.

http://www.bercasio.com/movies/dems-wmd-before-iraq.wmv

[SubGod22]

Technically they did find some old WMDs. They just weren't as new or stockpiled like some believed.

Say again over.

I remember reading some articles of old chemical weapons or something that had been found long ago. They were from the 80s or something but were still in the possession of the Iraqi leader.