2024 Summer Olympics

[Onegreatracer]

I knew this would come up eventually.

Let me say first I don't KNOW for certain. But from what I can ascertain, I don't believe this is a case of a transgender person from Algeria.

To be honest, I'm not even sure a transgender person can exist in Algeria and/or be recognized as a human, much less an Olympic athlete.

I think we all (or at least 99% +) would agree that we don't think actually men that want to cosplay into women and then compete (Lia Thomas for instance) is acceptable, EVER.

I don't believe that's what's happening here. The Algerian boxer, again from what I have mined, was born a female (in appearance) but does have male DNA and perhaps internal male anatomy. Certainly very rare but does happen. She (for lack of a better description) does have high levels of testosterone.

Now, I'm not saying she should be allowed to compete. Obviously they have rules and someone has to have common sense. But I don't think (if I'm right....and I think I am) it's the particular issue that is plaguing our society right now. I don't think any one of us would want one of our children to be afflicted with this particular abnormality. And I don't think it's her fault (although choosing to compete in boxing and taking advantage of this condition seems to be a marginal decision, at best).

Is it a problem? Yes. Is it the problem we are attaching it to, societally? I don't believe it is.

Anyway.....carry on.

Weird to tie it into the issue of real TRANSGENDER athletes imo. Can give the argument of allowing it more credence which nobody should want. She didn’t choose to become a female or ever have a choice to be anything but. AFAIK, although I didn’t do much reading, she has and was born with all female parts, with male DNA as you said just as some men are born with ovaries that aren’t discovered for a long time. Algeria would have her killed for being transgender so that’s off the table.

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I've spoken with female athletes who've admitted to coming up against "women" of great masculine advantage way back before gender bending was even part of some wackos fantasy. Look at Serena Williams. Testosterone levels vary in women just as they do in men. Those hairy, aggressive ladies some of ya'll have likely had the pleasure to spend time with, have more testosterone than their counterparts.

But the ones who actively change their sex AFTER birth (some women are unfortunately born with parts of both sex and the parents have to make a choice), need to be playing in their own leagues. It's asinine to let them compete against pure women.

And as I already mentioned above, it's poor taste to have real women playing in high-contact sports. Gymnastics, swimming, track and field, and the incredibly effeminate sport of soccer are PERFECTLY suited for the fairer sex.

Hey look, we agree.

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I haven't changed the discussion one iota. I just offered some tangential information. My position on boys wanting to abuse girls in sports has been made very clear.

[Shockm]

You’re changing the discussion. The discussion was whether males should compete against females, and whether males should change their clothes in locker rooms with females. These policies shouldn’t occur over .018% of the population. This boxing match had an XY boxer fighting an XX boxer which is wrong. This boxing match should not have happened. We have to have common rules and policies that protect women.

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Oh, you said .018 PERCENT. That's 659 then.

Although your number is the exception of all the statistics out there. That's no surprise...

There are many other sexual deformities trending in society today besides just intersex(dom) as well.

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0.018%

https://statsforgender.org/it-is-not...ions-is-0-018/

That's still 65,880 little hermaphrodites born in the States EVERY year.

And it appears the incidence of this deformity is trending up as well. Makes sense as there have been MANY negative hormonal trends in humans for decades now. Plastics, pesticides, preservatives, etc., etc., are the likely candidates.

[Shockm]

I've spoken with female athletes who've admitted to coming up against "women" of great masculine advantage way back before gender bending was even part of some wackos fantasy. Look at Serena Williams. Testosterone levels vary in women just as they do in men. Those hairy, aggressive ladies some of ya'll have likely had the pleasure to spend time with, have more testosterone than their counterparts.

But the ones who actively change their sex AFTER birth (some women are unfortunately born with parts of both sex and the parents have to make a choice), need to be playing in their own leagues. It's asinine to let them compete against pure women.

And as I already mentioned above, it's poor taste to have real women playing in high-contact sports. Gymnastics, swimming, track and field, and the incredibly effeminate sport of soccer are PERFECTLY suited for the fairer sex.

0.018%

https://statsforgender.org/it-is-not-true-that-1-7-of-the-population-is-intersex-the-proportion-of-people-with-dsds-intersex-conditions-is-0-018/

[WstateU]

[C0|dB|00ded]

I've spoken with female athletes who've admitted to coming up against "women" of great masculine advantage way back before gender bending was even part of some wackos fantasy. Look at Serena Williams. Testosterone levels vary in women just as they do in men. Those hairy, aggressive ladies some of ya'll have likely had the pleasure to spend time with, have more testosterone than their counterparts.

But the ones who actively change their sex AFTER birth (some women are unfortunately born with parts of both sex and the parents have to make a choice), need to be playing in their own leagues. It's asinine to let them compete against pure women.

And as I already mentioned above, it's poor taste to have real women playing in high-contact sports. Gymnastics, swimming, track and field, and the incredibly effeminate sport of soccer are PERFECTLY suited for the fairer sex.

[Shockm]

Both guys were banned from women's boxing by the IBA for having XY chromosomes and elevated testosterone. One contested and then dropped the contest before adjudication. The other didn't even contest it.

Isn’t the Harris Biden Administration saying that men can say they’re women to get a scholarship in NCAA athletics, and should be able to compete against women in high school and college athletics? It’s not just international athletics that allow it.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/new-title-ix-regulations-intensify-fight-transgender-youth/story?id=110181750

[Kung Wu]

Both guys were banned from women's boxing by the IBA for having XY chromosomes and elevated testosterone. One contested and then dropped the contest before adjudication. The other didn't even contest it.

[1972Shocker]

On Wednesday, the International Boxing Association (IBA) issued a statement about Khelif and Lu Yu-ting. The IBA noted that it disqualified both athletes from the organization’s World Boxing Championships in New Delhi in 2023 (via IBA):

This disqualification was a result of their failure to meet the eligibility criteria for participating in the women’s competition, as set and laid out in the IBA Regulations. This decision, made after a meticulous review, was extremely important and necessary to uphold the level of fairness and utmost integrity of the competition.

Point to note, the athletes did not undergo a testosterone examination but were subject to a separate and recognized test, whereby the specifics remain confidential. This test conclusively indicated that both athletes did not meet the required necessary eligibility criteria and were found to have competitive advantages over other female competitors.

Apparently the IOC relied on the sex indicated on their passports as the basis for eligibility. Sounds pretty scientific to me.

[shock]

There's no joke to get. X accounts (and this guy has to be one of the worst) like this post something to get your attention, then people watch many, many times trying to figure it out or see what they are missing (that isn't ever there) just to boost their engagements. Is it called farming? I don't know exactly but it's annoying for sure. You've got to hit the block button a lot these days.

That’s the CEO of Twitter. The joke is that there is no penis in those pants.

[WuDrWu]

I knew this would come up eventually.

Let me say first I don't KNOW for certain. But from what I can ascertain, I don't believe this is a case of a transgender person from Algeria.

To be honest, I'm not even sure a transgender person can exist in Algeria and/or be recognized as a human, much less an Olympic athlete.

I think we all (or at least 99% +) would agree that we don't think actually men that want to cosplay into women and then compete (Lia Thomas for instance) is acceptable, EVER.

I don't believe that's what's happening here. The Algerian boxer, again from what I have mined, was born a female (in appearance) but does have male DNA and perhaps internal male anatomy. Certainly very rare but does happen. She (for lack of a better description) does have high levels of testosterone.

Now, I'm not saying she should be allowed to compete. Obviously they have rules and someone has to have common sense. But I don't think (if I'm right....and I think I am) it's the particular issue that is plaguing our society right now. I don't think any one of us would want one of our children to be afflicted with this particular abnormality. And I don't think it's her fault (although choosing to compete in boxing and taking advantage of this condition seems to be a marginal decision, at best).

Is it a problem? Yes. Is it the problem we are attaching it to, societally? I don't believe it is.

Anyway.....carry on.

[WuDrWu]

I'm blind. This is a cool video but I don't get the joke.

There's no joke to get. X accounts (and this guy has to be one of the worst) like this post something to get your attention, then people watch many, many times trying to figure it out or see what they are missing (that isn't ever there) just to boost their engagements. Is it called farming? I don't know exactly but it's annoying for sure. You've got to hit the block button a lot these days.