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  • #46
    "In God we trust, all others must bring data." - W. Edwards Deming

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    • #47
      Originally posted by NCAABound View Post

      Lol a few months behind ShockTalk!
      I actually thought so but didn't read it and just thought I must have been thinking of someone else. I also looked at the last couple of entries on the thread and just went with it.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post

        You should be sorry. You started the thread that we talked about it in.

        https://shockernet.net/forum/miscell...71#post1369272
        Hey, my memory isn't as sharp as WstateU .

        Add: Not even a close race.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by ShockTalk View Post

          Hey, my memory isn't as sharp as WstateU .
          No, I'm sure yours is actually better... I've been known to tell the same joke over and over...



          "You Just Want to Slap The #### Outta Some People"

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          • #50
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            • #51
              Infinity Art Glass - Fantastic local artist and Shocker fan
              RIP Guy Always A Shocker
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              ICT S.O.S - Great local cause fighting against human trafficking
              Wartick Insurance Agency - Saved me money with more coverage.
              Save Shocker Sports - A rallying cry

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              • #52
                The greatest running back........no.......the greatest football player who ever lived.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by pinstripers View Post
                  The greatest running back........no.......the greatest football player who ever lived.
                  You have to look at a Jim Brown through today’s lens. If you compare him to running backs today, Jim Brown would be a lesser deal. He was 6’2, 230, with a 32 “ waist, and ran a 4.5 40.

                  But in his day, NFL linemen topped out at 250 (today would be 330). Today’s NFL running backs weigh 215 and still run a 4.49 40. He would be a dominant RB today. The only difference is that today’s football players are much faster.

                  IOW, he would still be dominant, but his dominance would be less because today’s football player is much bigger, faster, stronger than in 1961.

                  In 1961, Jim Brown was a “freak”.

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                  • #54
                    Not only the greatest RB ever, but arguably one of the 5 greatest football players ever.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Shockm View Post

                      You have to look at a Jim Brown through today’s lens. If you compare him to running backs today, Jim Brown would be a lesser deal. He was 6’2, 230, with a 32 “ waist, and ran a 4.5 40.

                      But in his day, NFL linemen topped out at 250 (today would be 330). Today’s NFL running backs weigh 215 and still run a 4.49 40. He would be a dominant RB today. The only difference is that today’s football players are much faster.

                      IOW, he would still be dominant, but his dominance would be less because today’s football player is much bigger, faster, stronger than in 1961.

                      In 1961, Jim Brown was a “freak”.
                      Jim Brown had access to none of the modern day strength and conditioning equipment, staff or theories available to today’s athletes to say nothing of nutritional options which at best was a pizza pie and strong coffee in the 60s, again, at BEST. If you don’t think modern day Jim Brown wouldn’t have been 265 and run <4.31 I can’t help you.

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                      • #56
                        Just imagine what Jim Thorpe could have done with today's training and knowledge.
                        Infinity Art Glass - Fantastic local artist and Shocker fan
                        RIP Guy Always A Shocker
                        Carpenter Place - A blessing to many young girls/women
                        ICT S.O.S - Great local cause fighting against human trafficking
                        Wartick Insurance Agency - Saved me money with more coverage.
                        Save Shocker Sports - A rallying cry

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post

                          Jim Brown had access to none of the modern day strength and conditioning equipment, staff or theories available to today’s athletes to say nothing of nutritional options which at best was a pizza pie and strong coffee in the 60s, again, at BEST. If you don’t think modern day Jim Brown wouldn’t have been 265 and run <4.31 I can’t help you.
                          Of course, he would have been 30 more pounds. JB didn't know what a weight looked like. In high school he participated in football, basketball, T&F (High Jump was one of his best events), baseball, and LaCrosse. At Syracuse, he lettered in football, basketball, T&F, and LaCrosse, and was an AA in football and lacrosse.

                          My point was that he was a natural, physical, Superman in the late 1950's and early 60's, Today, the RB in the NFL is an afterthought. Then it was the equivalent of the QB today, and at 6'2, 230 (often the biggest and fastest man on the field), who ran a 4.5 without any weights/conditioning, he knew no bounds.

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                          • #58


                            RIP Tina

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                            • #59
                              A legend from a realm we don't often mention on here, but I felt he was deserving of acknowledgment as some may care.

                              Infinity Art Glass - Fantastic local artist and Shocker fan
                              RIP Guy Always A Shocker
                              Carpenter Place - A blessing to many young girls/women
                              ICT S.O.S - Great local cause fighting against human trafficking
                              Wartick Insurance Agency - Saved me money with more coverage.
                              Save Shocker Sports - A rallying cry

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                              • #60
                                I watched a special on him just the other day.

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