Wichita State looking into women’s basketball transfers

[Steeleshocker]

But they did have concrete evidence. The university had this tape as well

Sorry, that is not concrete evidence. That would be the equivalent of witnesses i mentioned in my post.

Concrete evidence would be video of an incident taking place, an audio recording of HCJA saying the alleged statements, or something in writing/email from her.

Not saying she didn't do these things, just the audio recording posted is not concrete. The university may be averse to a potential lawsuit that could be very expensive and create an even greater public black eye.

[The Mad Hatter]

Am I the only one who finds it a little odd that the focus of this discussion has been so heavily on Sexton and not on Becky Endicott?

One of the changes made as a result of the investigation was to remove Endicott as the supervisor of women's basketball and have Sexton take that over personally. While Sexton could be more directly complicit in inaction in the years since the taped interview, it seems as likely (or more) that the problem existed more with Becky. As someone who not only was the direct supervisor of women's basketball, but also someone who had seniority in the athletic department before Sexton even joined, it would not be unreasonable for Sexton to trust her administration of that program and he may have been given an artificial sense that problems had been adequately addressed.

With everyone focusing on the team psychologist as the only outcome of the investigation, I think that Endicott's removal from that supervisory role may both indicate more about the nature of the problem and may substantively change the oversight approach in a way that is potentially being underestimated here.

[1972Shocker]

I agree Becky certainly deserves her share of the responsibility and accountability. However, the Athletic Director is where the buck ultimately stops and the warning signs were obviously there. I don't think either Eric or Becky have performed anywhere close to par relative to the issues surrounding the WBB program.

Hopefully, whoever is in charge from this point forward stays on top of things and does not let them spiral out of control again.

[shocker_67]

Am I the only one who finds it a little odd that the focus of this discussion has been so heavily on Sexton and not on Becky Endicott?

One of the changes made as a result of the investigation was to remove Endicott as the supervisor of women's basketball and have Sexton take that over personally. While Sexton could be more directly complicit in inaction in the years since the taped interview, it seems as likely (or more) that the problem existed more with Becky. As someone who not only was the direct supervisor of women's basketball, but also someone who had seniority in the athletic department before Sexton even joined, it would not be unreasonable for Sexton to trust her administration of that program and he may have been given an artificial sense that problems had been adequately addressed.

With everyone focusing on the team psychologist as the only outcome of the investigation, I think that Endicott's removal from that supervisory role may both indicate more about the nature of the problem and may substantively change the oversight approach in a way that is potentially being underestimated here.

I believe both individuals are responsible. The thing that concerns me the most regarding that issue is 1) Samantha Smith's parents went to both Eric and Becky 2) Seems Bri Jones parents went to Sexton 3) the 2012 team went to Sexton 4) and I am understanding there are other individuals that have gone to Sexton. At what point in this span of years is Eric Sexton to be held accountable in a leadership position? Even the captain holds himself responsible as the last one off the ship and puts his crew's safety first, can't say the Athletes safety has been put first.
I am truly seeing a lack of institutional control.
Now the bothersome part right now is, if this tape was turned over along with other statements of parents and players over this whole span of time that JA has been there, now those that led the investigation now have that knowledge and leadership position to be held accountable........and I believe it was everyone that witnessed the push-ups, which once more under Sexton.....I'm seeing a far worse pattern of derelict of duty that gave JA permission to have a hostile environment for these athletes.

[ShockdaWorld]

My question for those that consider HCJA to be 100% guilty is what would make things ok for you? Would her being fired be enough? Or would ES need to be fired too? Or is it that plus monetary compensation? I am NOT saying she's not guilty. I'm just wondering what the punishment should be for the crime.

[shockerfanmas]

My question for those that consider HCJA to be 100% guilty is what would make things ok for you? Would her being fired be enough? Or would ES need to be fired too? Or is it that plus monetary compensation? I am NOT saying she's not guilty. I'm just wondering what the punishment should be for the crime.

My answer remains the same. If it can be determined that JA was 100% involved and at fault, then everybody involved needs to be immediately terminated. Anybody that knew what was going on about failed to do anything about it, ignored it, whatever, should go. That includes Becky, ADES, any current assistants, everybody. That and a bit of public humiliation. Make them publicly apologize face to face to every player that was abused.

Furthermore, those people are not allowed to have a college job for a set amount of time

[Shocker-maniac]

My question for those that consider HCJA to be 100% guilty is what would make things ok for you? Would her being fired be enough? Or would ES need to be fired too? Or is it that plus monetary compensation? I am NOT saying she's not guilty. I'm just wondering what the punishment should be for the crime.

With the constant use of the term "lack of institutional control" I suspect that some are seeing NCAA sanctions as the proper punishment.

[1972Shocker]

With the constant use of the term "lack of institutional control" I suspect that some are seeing NCAA sanctions as the proper punishment.

You don't have to suspect that. Paul Suellentrop recently reported that that is exactly what is happening:

http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/wichita-state/article22537245.html

Whether or not the NCAA will get involved and to what extent remains to be seen.

[Shocker-maniac]

Looks like Michaela and Moriah Dapprich will be transferring to the University of Omaha to finish up. Good luck to those young ladies. Hope they will find things more to their liking at Omaha and are able to complete their educations.

http://www.omavs.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=31400&ATCLID=210123391

They will join former Shocker Marissa Preston who transferred to Omaha last year after her freshman season.

I sure hate it that these young ladies are leaving. I wish them the very best.

[1972Shocker]

My question is why would you give either Eric Sexton or Becky Endicott the responsibility for overseeing the WBB program. Both are the same foxes that have been guarding the hen house for the past 7 years. Why not hand this responsibility to Darron Boatright for example? Leaving either Eric or Becky in charge gives the impression that nothing has changed.

Hire a sports psychologist? How is that a change, they apparently had that back in 2012 when the audio recording was made.

So other than perhaps a bigger magnifying glass on the program cast by the aggrieved parties, certain concerned members of the Shocker fan base and maybe some NCAA scrutiny what has really changed at the hands of the Wichita State administration?

[RoyalShock]

My question for those that consider HCJA to be 100% guilty is what would make things ok for you? Would her being fired be enough? Or would ES need to be fired too? Or is it that plus monetary compensation? I am NOT saying she's not guilty. I'm just wondering what the punishment should be for the crime.

I don't know what you really mean by "100% guilty", so I will qualify this by saying I believe a preponderance of the player's allegations. That belief doesn't make it fact. But based on that belief: Adams should be fired for cause. Endicott should, at a minimum, be demoted, and Sexton should, at a minimum, be reassigned to a position that does not involve student relations.

Endicott and Sexton had opportunities to save their jobs when issues were brought to them long before 2015. Their lack of proper oversight (Endicott) and rewarding Adams with knowledge of problems (Sexton), make both unqualified to perform their job responsibilities. I really hate to say this, but if I'm being logically consistent, Bardo's promotion of Sexton to the Student Affairs position, after his complete disregard of the concerns of many women's basketball players, does not reflect well on our university president, despite all the good he has done. Even if I allow for the possibility he didn't know how bad this was before he appointed Sexton to the new position, he could have reversed course. Another missed opportunity.

I understand it was difficult to fire a coach (or let her walk away to another school) that was bringing on-court respectability to a program that had never competed in an NCAA tournament. But making a termination even more difficult with a new contract was a swing and miss. I have a feeling Sexton may have informally tried to address some of the concerns during contract negotiations, hoping the future would be different and he would come out looking like a genius. But you know the old adage about a leopard and its spots.

The lesson I'm taking away from this is, do the right thing, for the right reasons, when it's the right time to do it.

[1972Shocker]

I sure hate it that these young ladies are leaving. I wish them the very best.

The sad thing is that these young ladies hate it that they are leaving also. They loved Wichita State, especially the fans, and they loved Wichita. Both Michaela and Moriah had plans to live and work in Wichita after completing their careers at Wichita State. But at some point it just becomes more than you can endure and you have to make a change for your own well-being.

[Shocker-maniac]

The sad thing is that these young ladies hate it that they are leaving also. They loved Wichita State, especially the fans, and they loved Wichita. Both Michaela and Moriah had plans to live and work in Wichita after completing their careers at Wichita State. But at some point it just becomes more than you can endure and you have to make a change for your own well-being.

Yep, I don't blame them at all. Just a heartbreaker. Sheesh, what a mess.

[Aargh]

The NCAA won't have a thing to do with this - they wouldn't touch a coach's attitude or abuse of players with a 10' pole. That wouldn't just be a slippery slope, that would be ice skating on a roller coaster - while the roller coaster was running.

I don't view Sexton's change of duties to be a promotion. I expect it's only a matter of time before he steps aside as Director of Athletic Operations in order to concentrate full time on student affairs. Vice President of Student Affairs is a nice, cushy, behind the scenes job where the ability to deal with subordinates is not a critical job skill. It's certainly not a promotion from Athletic Director. Sexton appears to be getting eased out of his responsibilities in the athletic department.

After the strain on donors to keep Marshall, the athletic department might be struggling to find the $$ to fire Adams.

Bardo's hands might be pretty much tied here. Sexton's management style works REALLY WELL with Marshall. Not so well with Adams. Marshall porbably likes Sexton as his boss A LOT! If you are Bardo, do you want to risk hiring a new boss for Marshall?

If the "right thing" to do is to terminate Adams, Sexton, and Endicott, that could create total chaos in the athletic department for an extended period of time. Bardo has a pretty full plate with his plans for the University. I think he didn't want to deal with upheaval in the athletic department at the same time, so he decided to buy some time in athletics. Maybe replacing the athletic director takes a few years. Maybe raising the $$ to terminate Adams is in the same time frame. Maybe Endicott will respond to some "helpful advice" in dealing with coaches.

[1972Shocker]

My question for those that consider HCJA to be 100% guilty is what would make things ok for you? Would her being fired be enough? Or would ES need to be fired too? Or is it that plus monetary compensation? I am NOT saying she's not guilty. I'm just wondering what the punishment should be for the crime.

There is no way I could state it so precisely and eloquently as @RoyalShock: did. So I will just say -- Ditto.

It is not just a matter of guilt that is the issue. What kind of an environment do you want to provide for your student-athletes to thrive in?

Assuming that these players are being mostly truthful and accurate in what they have described in the various reports about this issue and in the audio recording what do you think should happen?