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  • WBB - Lady Shocks Host Loyola & Bradley

    On the surface this weekend games seem like two wins just waiting for the taking. The Shockers (18-4, 9-1) take on Loyola (4-18, 2-9) on Friday at 7:00 pm and Bradley (4-18, 3-8) on Sunday at 2:00 pm.

    4 weeks back the Shocks went on the road and defeated Loyola 65-41 and Bradley 61-45 in games where the Shockers quite frankly did not play their best, especially in the first half of both of those games. The led Loyola 25-23 at the half and Bradley 28-25 at the half in those games with Bradley closing to within 1 point a couple of times early in the 2nd half before the Shocks shifted gears and pulled away.

    Perhaps just a matter of the Shocks not being real motivated to play seemingly overmatched opponents but not the kind of effort you want to have regardless of the opponent.

    Loyola may have played their best 2 games of the season last weekend at home defeating Evansville 70-58 and Indiana State 61-50. In the win over Evansville Loyola's big center, Taylor Manuel, went for 29 points and 9 rebounds. In their win over Indiana State, 6-0 Sr Simone Law rejoined the team after missing 18 games with an injury and lead the Ramblers to the win with 17 points on 8-10 shooting and 8 rebounds. Manuel had 7 points in the Indiana State game but she had 8 rebounds and 6 blocked shots in 20 minutes. However, she left the game with a injury (knee I think) with about 16 minutes t play and her availability for this weekend games is unknown at this point.

    When I say Manuel is big, I mean she is big. She is only 6-2, the same height as Kelsey. However, at a MINIMUM she outweighs Kelsey by a factor of 2-to-1. OTOH Kelsey can run rings around Manuel and should be able to consistently beat her up and down the court.



    The Shocks actually did a very good job on Manuel in Chicago holding her to 5 points and 5 rebounds plus forcing her into 5 turnovers in that game.

    Bradley has won 3 of its last 5 games after starting Valley play at 0-5. However, 2 of those wins came against fellow bottom-feeders Loyola and Illinois State although both were on the road. Bradley also picked up its best conference win last weekend defeating Evansville 56-50 at home.

    Hopefully, the Shocks will come out engaged and focused from the get go and give Jody a chance to work in her bench liberally to 1) help save the legs of the starters and 2) give the bench some badly needed game experience.

    Valley leader Drake host UNI on Friday night in their only game of the week. This will give the Shockers the opportunity to pull even with Drake at the top of the Valley even if Drake wins their game with UNI. Drake will clearly be favored to win but UNI is capable of pulling the upset which would give the Shocks the opportunity to capture sole possession of 1st place if that were to occur.

    The Shocks just need to control what they can control and take care of their business.
    Last edited by 1972Shocker; February 12, 2015, 04:26 PM.

  • #2
    Originally posted by 1972Shocker View Post
    On the surface this weekend games seem like two wins just waiting for the taking. The Shockers (18-4, 9-1) take on Loyola (4-18, 2-9) on Friday at 7:00 pm and Bradley (4-18, 3-8) on Sunday at 2:00 pm.

    4 weeks back the Shocks went on the road and defeated Loyola 65-41 and Bradley 61-45 in games where the Shockers quite frankly did not play their best, especially in the first half of both of those games. The led Loyola 25-23 at the half and Bradley 28-25 at the half in those games with Bradley closing to within 1 point a couple of times early in the 2nd half before the Shocks shifted gears and pulled away.

    Perhaps just a matter of the Shocks not being real motivated to play seemingly overmatched opponents but not the kind of effort you want to have regardless of the opponent.

    Loyola may have played their best 2 games of the season last weekend at home defeating Evansville 70-58 and Indiana State 61-50. In the win over Evansville Loyola's big center, Taylor Manuel, went for 29 points and 9 rebounds. In their win over Indiana State, 6-0 Sr Simone Law rejoined the team after missing 18 games with an injury and lead the Ramblers to the win with 17 points on 8-10 shooting and 8 rebounds. Manuel had 7 points in the Indiana State game but she had 8 rebounds and 6 blocked shots in 20 minutes. However, she left the game with a injury (knee I think) with about 16 minutes t play and her availability for this weekend games is unknown at this point.

    When I say Manuel is big, I mean she is big. She is only 6-2, the same height as Kelsey. However, at a MINIMUM she outweighs Kelsey by a factor of 2-1. OTOH Kelsey can run rings around Manuel and should be able to consistently beat her up and down the court.



    The Shocks actually did a very good job on Manuel in Chicago holding her to 5 points and 5 rebounds plus forcing her into 5 turnovers in that game.

    Bradley has won 3 of its last 5 games after starting Valley play at 0-5. However, 2 of those wins came against fellow bottom-feeders Loyola and Illinois State although both were on the road. Bradley also picked up its best conference win last weekend defeating Evansville 56-50 at home.

    Hopefully, the Shocks will come out engaged and focused from the get go and give Jody a chance to work in her bench liberally to 1) help save the legs of the starters and 2) give the bench some badly needed game experience.

    Valley leader Drake host UNI on Friday night in their only game of the week. This will give the Shockers the opportunity to pull even with Drake at the top of the Valley even if Drake wins their game with UNI. Drake will clearly be favored to win but UNI is capable of pulling the upset which would give the Shocks the opportunity to capture sole possession of 1st place if that were to occur.

    The Shocks just need to control what they can control and take care of their business.
    I hope Kelsey has recovered from her head shot and isn't seeing three rims. She played pretty loopy against MSU. We need her to run circles around the Loyola bigs as you stated.

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    • #3
      Other Scores

      Drake 87-67 Northern Iowa

      Evansville 53-62 Southern Illinois

      Missouri State 69-61 Bradley

      Indiana State 74-65 Illinois State

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      • #4
        Ugly win but still a win for the Shocks. Manuel was out of control at times. Yeah, she's a handful to say the least. Should have been T'd up and run late in the 2nd half with her bitching about the offensive foul (her 4th). Ramblers did a lot of chirping for a team with 20+ losses.

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        • #5
          Shocks win 64-55 in what I thought was in pretty unimpressive fashion. They really struggled with Loyola's packed in zone and did a particularly poor job in penetrating the zone. Not sure how many possessions came down to a forced shot at the end of the shot clock but it was a bunch.

          Loyola really did not attack their offensive board. They made sure they got back into their packed in zone and clearly did not want to let the Shocks get going in transition. And it worked pretty well. The Shocks were not outstanding in the half court offense. 6-0 Sr. Simone Law, who was injured first time around for the Ramblers, certainly helped the Ramblers' cause.

          They can probably handle the bottom-feeders playing this way but they will need to step it up against everyone else.

          Alex and Michaela were solid going a combined 12-22 from the field and 12-13 from the line as the lead the way with 20 points and 17 points respectively and each grabbed 7 rebounds to tie Jamillah for game high honors in that department. The rest of the team was 10-33 from the field. But Alex was pretty passive most of the 2nd half scoring her only FG of the half at the 13:28 mark before knocking down 6-6 FT's in the final minute of the game.

          Kelsey Jacobs struggled for the 2nd game in a row and was only 2-10 from the field tonight after a 0-5 performance last Sunday against MSU. Wearing down maybe. Alie Decker only hit 1-5 from the field tonight. Jamillah Bonner scored 12 points but it took her 15 FG attempts and 4 FT attempts to do it although Jamillah did knock down a huge 3 pointer at the 4:42 mark to put the Shocks up by 14. LUC cut back down to 7 with 1:05 to go but Alex sealed the deal with her FT shooting.

          Again the Shocks got very little help from the bench getting only 2 points each from Brittany Martin and Jaleesa Chapel in a combined 16 minutes. Alex played 39 minutes, Kelsey 38, Jamillah 35 and Michaela and Alie 33 each. LUC's bench outscored the Shock's bench 17-4. It is what it is I guess.

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          • #6
            Alex Harden moved past Kim Evans and Kiki Stephens on the Shocker career scoring list with her 20 points tonight against Loyola. She is now in 3rd place with 1,491 points trailing only Jennifer Kaczka (1,557) and Allison Daniel (1,638). Alex has a minimum of 9 games remaining. On the season she is currently averaging 15.6 PPG. If she maintains that average over the remaining 9 games (minimum) she would finish her career with 1,631 points. This assumes the Shocks are 1-and-done in the Valley tournament and play only 1 game in the NCAA or NIT as they case may be.

            Of course, their is so much more to Alex's game then just scoring points. You can check out more of Alex's career numbers here:
            Last edited by 1972Shocker; February 14, 2015, 12:14 AM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post
              Ugly win but still a win for the Shocks. Manuel was out of control at times. Yeah, she's a handful to say the least. Should have been T'd up and run late in the 2nd half with her bitching about the offensive foul (her 4th). Ramblers did a lot of chirping for a team with 20+ losses.
              They are the mirror image of their classless coach who was t'd up.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by 1972Shocker View Post
                Shocks win 64-55 in what I thought was in pretty unimpressive fashion. They really struggled with Loyola's packed in zone and did a particularly poor job in penetrating the zone. Not sure how many possessions came down to a forced shot at the end of the shot clock but it was a bunch.

                Loyola really did not attack their offensive board. They made sure they got back into their packed in zone and clearly did not want to let the Shocks get going in transition. And it worked pretty well. The Shocks were not outstanding in the half court offense. 6-0 Sr. Simone Law, who was injured first time around for the Ramblers, certainly helped the Ramblers' cause.

                They can probably handle the bottom-feeders playing this way but they will need to step it up against everyone else.

                Alex and Michaela were solid going a combined 12-22 from the field and 12-13 from the line as the lead the way with 20 points and 17 points respectively and each grabbed 7 rebounds to tie Jamillah for game high honors in that department. The rest of the team was 10-33 from the field. But Alex was pretty passive most of the 2nd half scoring her only FG of the half at the 13:28 mark before knocking down 6-6 FT's in the final minute of the game.

                Kelsey Jacobs struggled for the 2nd game in a row and was only 2-10 from the field tonight after a 0-5 performance last Sunday against MSU. Wearing down maybe. Alie Decker only hit 1-5 from the field tonight. Jamillah Bonner scored 12 points but it took her 15 FG attempts and 4 FT attempts to do it although Jamillah did knock down a huge 3 pointer at the 4:42 mark to put the Shocks up by 14. LUC cut back down to 7 with 1:05 to go but Alex sealed the deal with her FT shooting.

                Again the Shocks got very little help from the bench getting only 2 points each from Brittany Martin and Jaleesa Chapel in a combined 16 minutes. Alex played 39 minutes, Kelsey 38, Jamillah 35 and Michaela and Alie 33 each. LUC's bench outscored the Shock's bench 17-4. It is what it is I guess.
                Spoke with a couple players after the game as they were coming out. They are very, very tired. They didn't make excuses, but still exhausted. Jody wants perfection, which is great, but they have been practicing very hard and long. Even practice more than a shoot around on game days. Rest is important when we have 5.2 players.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by 1972Shocker View Post
                  Alex Harden moved past Kim Evans and Kiki Stephens on the Shocker career scoring list with her 20 points tonight against Loyola. She is now in 3rd place with 1,491 points trailing only Jennifer Kaczka (1,557) and Allison Daniel (1,638). Alex has a minimum of 9 games remaining. On the season she is currently averaging 15.6 PPG. If she maintains that average over the remaining 9 games (minimum) she would finish her career with 1,631 points. This assumes the Shocks are 1-and-done in the Valley tournament and play only 1 game in the NCAA or NIT as they case may be.

                  Of course, their is so much more to Alex's game then just scoring points. You can check out more of Alex's career numbers here:
                  http://shockernet.net/forum/showthre...903#post542903
                  She is amazing. She wants to play at least one year professionally to help pay for her Med-School. She doesn't want debt.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by oldtimewomen's hoopcoach View Post
                    They are the mirror image of their classless coach who was t'd up.
                    I think you are being a little harsh. I have never thought Cheryl Swoops was classless. 4-19 teams and coaches can tend to let the frustration show through at times.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by flyingMoose View Post
                      Other Scores

                      Drake 87-67 Northern Iowa
                      Contrast of styles:

                      Drake and UNI combined to shoot 57 of 139 from the field including 12 of 52 three pointers.

                      WSU and Loyola combined to shoot 41 of 96 fromt the field including 7 of 19 three pointers.
                      Last edited by 1972Shocker; February 15, 2015, 08:16 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by 1972Shocker View Post
                        I think you are being a little harsh. I have never thought Cheryl Swoops was classless. 4-19 teams and coaches can tend to let the frustration show through at times.
                        Have seen her personally for years as player and recently as coach. Bridgette Gordon is first class and wouldn't say anything bad about Swoops, but I doubt she'll compliment her and she knows her well. My comment has no importance, just an opinion.

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                        • #13
                          Alex & Jamillah 44 - Bradley 36. The rest of the Shockers chipped in 22 points for good measure.

                          The Shocks defense was the real star of the day IMO. The Shocks forced Bradley into 28 turnovers and scored 36 points off of those turnovers.

                          Alex actually got of to kind of a slow start offensively but she was all over the floor and pretty much played and guarded every position on the floor.

                          Alex led the way with 26 points, 8 rebrounds, 5 steals, 3 assists and 1 blocked shot. The only thing Alex did not do well was hitting only 4-7 from the line which is well under her normal FT%. Alex only needed 16 shots for her 26 points.

                          Jamillah was closed behind with 18 points, 3 rebounds, 4 steals and 4 assists. Jamillah only needed 8 shots for her 18 points.

                          Kelsey chipped in 10 points but had a bad day in the turnover department with 6.

                          The bench did get 54 minutes although Brittany Martin did not play. She was suited up and looked iike she was going to enter the game at one point but was called back. Perhaps she committed a faux pax that landed her in the rarely vacant Jody dodghouse. Despite the increase in minutes Bradley's bench outscored the Shocker bench 16-0.

                          However, not much rest for Alex and Jamillah as they played 38 minutes and 35 minutes respectively although they both looked pretty fresh at the end of the game.

                          Alex's 4-7 from the line was not only unusual for her but came on a day when her teammates went 12-12 from the line. Specifically, Jamillah, Kelsey and Michaela all went 4-4 from the line.
                          Last edited by 1972Shocker; February 15, 2015, 08:17 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Other Valley Scores:
                            Drake and Northern Iowa did not play today as they are on their travel partner weekend. The Shocks have moved into a 1st place tie with Drake at 11-1.

                            SIU 76 @ Indiana State 58 - SIU has it going now and they are going to be tough when the Shocks travel to Carbondale next weekend.

                            Illinois State 52 @ Evansville 69

                            Loyola 64 @ Missouri State 83
                            Last edited by 1972Shocker; February 15, 2015, 09:52 PM.

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                            • #15
                              I have to wonder what the Lady Shox will look like next year. So little production from the younger players. What's the future look like?
                              Where oh where is our T. Boone Pickens.

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