23/RV Shockers v USF

[shockerfan_realist]

What's your opinion on hosting if WSU were to finish 18-2 (sweep conference and tournament, beat KU and OSU once) 47-9. Good enough to host? I don't think so.

What about 20-0 beating OSU twice and OU? Pretty sure OU and OSU are going to host. Is there the slightest chance 3 teams from this tiny area of the country would host?


Are we even eligible to host with our facilities? Or are these ladies just destined to be the 2 seed in Stillwater or Norman and that's the way it goes?

Yeah that was the purpose of them adding the new lights and the new visiting team dugout so they could host the conference tournament and then Regionals. If we could just catch a break and get an easier road to WCWS for once I think we could blow up

[flyingMoose]

Other Series

UCF 3-0 East Carolina

Memphis 1-2 Tulsa

Houston - bye

[flyingMoose]

Attendance: 650 - 775 - 796

[shockerfan_realist]

Other Series

UCF 3-0 East Carolina

Memphis 1-2 Tulsa

Houston - bye

Dang. ECU had a really good non-con but has now been swept by UCF and USF. Must've been a shell schedule

[SubGod22]

Dang. ECU had a really good non-con but has now been swept by UCF and USF. Must've been a shell schedule

Those are two of the top three teams in the conference.

[shockerfan_realist]

Those are two of the top three teams in the conference.

I know but still, at a glance a 22-9 team wouldn't be expected to start 0-6 in conference regardless. You'd think they'd be able to steal a win or two in there. I know UCF/USF had a much harder non-con but I think it still stands that I think it's fair to expect ECU to not get swept twice.

[flyingMoose]

Current AAC RPI

21 - Shockers

35 - UCF

57 - USF

102 - Houston

114 - Tulsa

126 - East Carolina

251 - Memphis

[1972Shocker]

I know but still, at a glance a 22-9 team wouldn't be expected to start 0-6 in conference regardless. You'd think they'd be able to steal a win or two in there. I know UCF/USF had a much harder non-con but I think it still stands that I think it's fair to expect ECU to not get swept twice.

I don't find it too surprising for a team picked to finish next to last was swept by 2 of the top 3 teams in the league.

2023 American Athletic Conference Preseason Softball Coaches' Poll

Team (First-Place Votes)	Pts.
1. UCF (4)	34
2. Wichita State (3)	33
3. South Florida	24
4. Houston	23
5. Tulsa	14
6. East Carolina	12
7. Memphis	7

But to answer you're question more directly, I have always felt (since WSU joined the AAC) that ECU generally does schedule pretty soft especially in its women's sports. I actually thought this year's USF softball schedule was a bit of a step up for them with games against #11 Virginia Tech (2), Maryland (2), Ohio State (2), Notre Dame, and North Carolina where they went 1-7 with there only win over UNC 8-4. The rest of their non-con does look more traditionally ECU soft the 21-2 record in those games tends to bear that out. So yeah, you could probably say their 22-9 non-con record was largely built on a soft schedule.



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[shockerfan_realist]

I don't find it too surprising for a team picked to finish next to last was swept by 2 of the top 3 teams in the league.

2023 American Athletic Conference Preseason Softball Coaches' Poll

Team (First-Place Votes)	Pts.
1. UCF (4)	34
2. Wichita State (3)	33
3. South Florida	24
4. Houston	23
5. Tulsa	14
6. East Carolina	12
7. Memphis	7

But to answer you're question more directly, I have always felt (since WSU joined the AAC) that ECU generally does schedule pretty soft especially in its women's sports. I actually thought this year's USF softball schedule was a bit of a step up for them with games against #11 Virginia Tech (2), Maryland (2), Ohio State (2), Notre Dame, and North Carolina where they went 1-7 with there only win over UNC 8-4. The rest of their non-con does look more traditionally ECU soft the 21-2 record in those games tends to bear that out. So yeah, you could probably say their 22-9 non-con record was largely built on a soft schedule.



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Not sure if this thread is dead now or not but yeah I guess I'm not arguing that USF and UCF aren't good but more of just the bottom of our league is horrible. I know ECU got a new coach last year and made a big step last year and I *thought* maybe they'd make a step to get to the top half of the league, which they still might, but yeah. I also don't put much stock into the coaches polls. It's all speculation and more often than not is wrong. I know it's easier to flip a roster but kstate was picked last in the pre-season coaches poll. Idk, not really worth an argument more of just an observation of "man our bottom half really isn't any good". Also raises optimism for us to get to 40 wins.