2018 Recruiting: All You Need To Know

[shocks02]

Thanks for this summary view of WSU's recruits - do you care to share your predictions regards the probability of the Shockers landing one or more of these recruits?

I'd expect to see us sign one, or maybe two, high school players that aren't on this list. There are probably some JUCO prospects we don't know about yet and I can't speak for transfers if we end up going that route at all.

[shocks02]

Sully talks more recruiting w/ quotes from Gregg. http://www.kansas.com/sports/college...l#navlink=Lead

[1972Shocker]

Since players can only take 5 official visits scheculing and taking one of those at Wichita State is pretty good indication that there is pretty strong interest on the part of the player. Doens't guarantee anything for sure but at least you know the kid has you fairly high on his list. I suppose some kids could take a few unofficial visits as well especially if they have interested schools that are geographically close to them like the Memphis kids.

[im4wsu]

Since players can only take 5 official visits scheculing and taking one of those at Wichita State is pretty good indication that there is pretty strong interest on the part of the player. Doens't guarantee anything for sure but at least you know the kid has you fairly high on his list. I suppose some kids could take a few unofficial visits as well especially if they have interested schools that are geographically close to them like the Memphis kids.

Yeah it's not like a trip to Wichitacompares favorably to a trip to Florida or New Orleans or ...

[shocks02]

Morris Udeze will attend Montverde Academy (FL) for post-grad.
TJ Moss will attend Findlay Prep (NV) for senior season.

Scout Rankings Update: http://www.scout.com/Season/2018-Bas...oup=HighSchool
Notable Changes:
Darius Days (Was #96, Now #64)
Kaden Archie (Was NR, Now #74)
Miller Kopp (Was NR, Now #75)
Jared Butler (Was #97, Now #76)
Nate Hinton (Was NR, Now #92)
Bryan Penn-Johnson (Was #97, Now #98)
Amanze Ngumezi (Was NR, Now #104)
Keyontae Johnson (Was #91, Now #109)
Rodgerick Brown (Was #196, Now #134)
Diante Wood (Was NR, Now #142)
Keyshawn Bryant (Was NR, Now #144)
Morris Udeze (Was NR, Now #147)
Tyler Harris (Was NR, Now #161)
Reggie Chaney (Was NR, Now #162)
Alex Lomax (Was NR, Now #167)
Erik Stevenson (Was NR, Now #174)

Added Offers:
Serrel Smith (Dayton)
Aaron Nesmith (Georgetown)
Joel Ntambwe (UNLV, Rhode Island)
Israel Barnes (UAB)
Nassir Little (Duke)
Emmitt Matthews (Georgetown, West Virginia, UConn)
Brady Heiman (Creighton)
Michael Durr (Georgetown)

Sam Froling could be the next Aussie standout: https://basketballrecruiting.rivals....adidas-nations

New Mixtapes:
Serrel Smith - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCwx...ature=youtu.be

Game Highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8I1vWkio2A

These are some extended highlights of an AAU game between Showtime Ballers and 1 Family. Several shocker recruits on both teams. It’s nice to see more than just the dunks and highlight reel plays at times.

Showtime Ballers:
Serrel Smith (#10)
Keyshawn Bryant (#23)
Blake Hinson (#0 – 16 y/o playing up)

1 Family:
Nassir Little (#10)
Zach Scott Jr. (#1)
Amanze Ngumezi (#21)
Rondo Segu (#5)

New Crystal Balls: http://247sports.com/Season/2018-Bas...getPredictions
Jared Rhoden (St. Louis)
Kaden Archie (LSU)
Darius Days (LSU)

[ShockTalk]

Here's my short-list, if anyone would find it useful. Keep in mind this list is always fluid, but gives a good barometer of where we sit.

Guards:
Alex Lomax (WSU, Memphis, Florida, Mizzou, Vandy, Ole Miss)
Tyler Harris (WSU, Iowa St, Ole Miss, Memphis, Cincinnati)
Jared Butler (WSU, Texas, Alabama, Virginia, Baylor, USC)
Serrel Smith
Nate Hinton
Xavier Castaneda
Zach Scott Jr.
Daylen Kountz
Neftali Alvarez

Wings/Combo Forwards:
Darius Days (WSU, Kansas, North Carolina, Louisville, Indiana, Ohio St, LSU, Memphis, Xavier, Providence, Texas A&M)
Aaron Nesmith
Keyontae Johnson
Jason Wade (FGCU, WSU, VCU, Old Dominion)
Jal Bijiek
Landers Nolley
Keyshawn Bryant
Jared Rhoden
Tyrese Samuel
Diante Wood

Power Forwards/Centers
Bryan Penn-Johnson (WSU, Kansas, Washington - Arizona, Kentucky, UCLA)
Dimon Carrigan (WSU, Miami, Syracuse, Texas, UConn, Houston, Georgia Tech, Clemson)
Morris Udeze (WSU, LSU, Ohio St, Butler, TCU, New Orleans, St John's, Iowa St, Tulsa, FGCU)
Flo Thamba
Amanze Ngumezi
Vincent Lee
Josh Roberts
KJ Buffen
Shaq Carter
Amadou Sow
Antun Maricevic

I basically took the above list by @shocks02: (plus a smattering of others) and looked them up for the 247SportsComposite rank / position / score / Scout rank in ().

Center: #ranked 47
B. Penn-Johnson #5 .9735 (5)
K. Fitzmorris #13 .8776 (13)
M. Udeze #18 .8709 (7)
F. Thamba #27 .8194 (25)
A. Maricevic JC

Power Forward #ranked 91
D. Days #20 .9731 (19)
J. Bijiek #28 .9398 (NA)
D. Carrigan #32 .9262 (NA)
A. Ngumezi #35 .9100 (28)
T. Samuel #41 .8920 (44)
R. Chaney #43 .8853 (37)
A. Sow #51 .8767 (46)
V. Lee NA
S. Carter JC

Small Forward # ranked 98
K. Johnson #22 .9592 (28)
L. Nolley #25 .9507 (13)
K. Archie #30 .9366 (18)
M. Kopp #32 .9337 (19)
K. Bryant #43 .8968 (36)
A. Nesmith #46 .8939 (NA)
R. Brown #48 .8850 (32)
TJ Buffen #85 .7667 (69)
Josh Roberts #91 .7667 (60)

Shooting Guard # ranked 110
J. Wade #24 .9418 (NA)
TJ Moss #52 .8821 (38)
D. Wood #55 .8763 (36)
E. Stevenson #64 .8467 (39)
N. Hinton #68 .8185 (18)

Combo Guard # ranked 18
I. Barnes #11 .8737 (10)
S. Smith #12 .8702 (13)
D. Kountz #16 .7965 (74 as SG)

Point Guard # ranked 78
J. Butler #16 .9580 (14)
A. Lomax #24 .9245 (30)
T. Harris #27 .9203 (29)
Z. Scott #44 .8701 (40)
N. Alvarez #56 .8046 (58)
X. Castaneda #64 .7667 (NA)

As you can tell, different rankings can vary, sometimes a lot. Also, as you've noticed, ranking within a service is very fluid.

[shockmonster]

I basically took the above list by @shocks02: (plus a smattering of others) and looked them up for the 247SportsComposite rank / position / score / Scout rank in ().

Center: #ranked 47
B. Penn-Johnson #5 .9735 (5)
K. Fitzmorris #13 .8776 (13)
M. Udeze #18 .8709 (7)
F. Thamba #27 .8194 (25)
A. Maricevic JC

Power Forward #ranked 91
D. Days #20 .9731 (19)
J. Bijiek #28 .9398 (NA)
D. Carrigan #32 .9262 (NA)
A. Ngumezi #35 .9100 (28)
T. Samuel #41 .8920 (44)
R. Chaney #43 .8853 (37)
A. Sow #51 .8767 (46)
V. Lee NA
S. Carter JC

Small Forward # ranked 98
K. Johnson #22 .9592 (28)
L. Nolley #25 .9507 (13)
K. Archie #30 .9366 (18)
M. Kopp #32 .9337 (19)
K. Bryant #43 .8968 (36)
A. Nesmith #46 .8939 (NA)
R. Brown #48 .8850 (32)
TJ Buffen #85 .7667 (69)
Josh Roberts #91 .7667 (60)

Shooting Guard # ranked 110
J. Wade #24 .9418 (NA)
TJ Moss #52 .8821 (38)
D. Wood #55 .8763 (36)
E. Stevenson #64 .8467 (39)
N. Hinton #68 .8185 (18)

Combo Guard # ranked 18
I. Barnes #11 .8737 (10)
S. Smith #12 .8702 (13)
D. Kountz #16 .7965 (74 as SG)

Point Guard # ranked 78
J. Butler #16 .9580 (14)
A. Lomax #24 .9245 (30)
T. Harris #27 .9203 (29)
Z. Scott #44 .8701 (40)
N. Alvarez #56 .8046 (58)
X. Castaneda #64 .7667 (NA)

As you can tell, different rankings can vary, sometimes a lot. Also, as you've noticed, ranking within a service is very fluid.

Why is Miller Kopp still on the list. He's crossed us off.

[ShockTalk]

Why is Miller Kopp still on the list. He's crossed us off.

I made the list from shocks02 list and a few other players we were familiar, like Israel Barnes. Even though Kopp recently crossed us off, he was on our radar for some time. I felt posters may have a better feel for his "level" than some of the others on the list and he worked as a comparison player. Also added were current recruits that have committed to WSU. I meant this to be a ranking/rating tool guide. I hold no ill will to those who choose anther school. Sorry if it was confusing.

[shockmonster]

No ill will from me regarding the players who don't have us as a finalist. There is a lot of recruiting information to keep track of the past year or so and I would say I'm indifferent to those players and would rather spend my time following recruits who are considering Shocker visits. It appears that we have a good number of those left.

[1972Shocker]

I thought baseball was a game of failure but based on the number of offers we have made what are we hoping to hit this year in the MBB recruiting wars? Something like 0.100 or perhaps less. Tough game.

[1972Shocker]

The Shocks will be replacing 6 seniors and possibly 1 or 2 underclassmen at the end of this season. 3G says he needs at least 1 of everything plus a special player.

I took the nifty list that @ShockTalk put together and added just a bit of color.
- Red: Players who do not have us among their finalists or have committed elsewhere
- Purple: Players with WSU on their top picks list
- Green: Players who have made or scheduled visits to WSU
- Bold Gold: Players who have verbally comitted to WSU

Center: #ranked 47
Bryan Penn-Johnson #5 .9735 (5)
Keenan Fitzmorris #13 .8776 (13) - Commited to Stanford
Morris Udeze #18 .8709 (7) - WSU Visit - June 13-14
Florent Thamba #27 .8194 (25)
Antun Maricevic - Casper WY Juco
Mohammad Abdulsalam - (3-Star)
Isaiah Chandler - Sunrise - Committed to WSU
Power Forward #ranked 91
Darius Days #20 .9731 (19) - WSU on Top 11 List
Jal Bijiek #28 .9398 (NA)
Dimon Carrigan #32 .9262 (NA) - WSU on Top 8 List
Amanze Ngumezi #35 .9100 (28) - WSU Visit: Sept 22-24
Tyrese Samuel #41 .8920 (44)
Reggie Chaney #43 .8853 (37) - WSU Visit: Oct 14-15
Amadou Sow #51 .8767 (46)
Vincent Lee NA
Grayson Carter NA
Shaq Carter - Eastern Florida Juco - His team practiced at Koch Arena before last year's Juco Nationals in Hutch.
Joel Ntambwe (3-Star)

Small Forward # ranked 98
Keyontae Johnson #22 .9592 (28)
Landers Nolley #25 .9507 (13)
Kaden Archie #30 .9366 (18)
Miller Kopp #32 .9337 (19)
Keyshawn Bryant #43 .8968 (36)
Aaron Nesmith #46 .8939 (NA)
Rod Brown #48 .8850 (32) - Committed to WSU - Class of 2017
KJ Buffen #85 .7667 (69)
Josh Roberts #91 .7667 (60)
Noah Kirkwood (Rivals 3-Star)
Emmitt Mathews Jr
Vince Williams Jr (3 to 4 Star) - Attended the SIU game at Koch Arena last February 3rd. Unofficial Visit?

Shooting Guard # ranked 110
Jason Wade #24 .9418 (NA)
TJ Moss #52 .8821 (38)
Diante Wood #55 .8763 (36)
Erik Stevenson #64 .8467 (39) - Commited to WSU
Nate Hinton #68 .8185 (18)
Caleb McConnell (2-Star) - Sunrise
Khaleem Bennett (2-Star) - Sunrise

Combo Guard # ranked 18
Israel Barnes #11 .8737 (10) - No Known Offer From WSU
Serrel Smith #12 .8702 (13) - WSU Visit: Aug 25-27
Daylen Kountz #16 .7965 (74 as SG) - WSU: Visted this past May - Tweeted He Will Announce on Sep 16

Point Guard # ranked 78
Jared Butler #16 .9580 (14) - WSU on Top 6 List
Alex Lomax #24 .9245 (30) - WSU Visit: Aug 25-27
Tyler Harris #27 .9203 (29)
Zach Scott #44 .8701 (40)
Neftali Alvarez #56 .8046 (58) - WSU Visit: Tweeted WSU Would Be His First Visit - No Date Given
Xavier Castaneda #64 .7667 (NA) - WSU Visit: Sep 6
Isaiah Bujdoso (2-Star) SCA

Please post any updates, errors or changes you see or know of.

[calfan]

Alvarez did his visit to WSU a week ago.

[OSShock]

Udeze visited us and has us in final list, Butler has us in final six, Darius Days has us in his list, Dimon Carrigan has us in final list.

[1972Shocker]

Alvarez did his visit to WSU a week ago.

I saw where he tweeted the following:

NEFTA ⚡️ @alvarez2neftali Aug 11

My first official visit Wichita State #ShockerNation

Not sure if that means he took his first official trip to Wichita State at that time or that he has scheduled his first official trip to Wichita for some unspecified date. I have not seen anything else about this. Do you have something esle that confirms he actually took the visit last week?

[1972Shocker]

Udeze visited us and has us in final list, Butler has us in final six, Darius Days has us in his list, Dimon Carrigan has us in final list.

Updated for Udeze visit back in mid-June from what I could find.

Added highlights for the players who still have us on their cut lists.

Thanks for the input.