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    Lunardi Reports

    The following from an ESPN Insider report on 15 games plus the 2K Sports Classic Championship. The article is titled "November Matchups Have March Impact." All three Kansas teams highlighted. Lunardi still referring to the Shocks as a "bubble team".


    You can't earn an NCAA tournament invitation in November, but you can certainly make it a whole lot easier by striking when opportunities present themselves. Here are 16 sweet matchups -- Sweet 16, get it? -- that figure to matter most come selection and seeding time in March:

    ...

    Virginia Tech Hokies at Kansas State Wildcats
    (Nov. 16, ESPN)
    No one will be able to knock the Hokies' nonconference schedule this season. In addition to this visit to the Little Apple, VaTech plays the 76 Classic (UNLV, Tulsa, Stanford, Oklahoma State, DePaul, Murray State), Purdue, Penn State and Mississippi State. Well done, Seth Greenberg.

    ...

    Connecticut Huskies vs. Wichita State Shockers
    (Nov. 22, ESPN2, Maui Classic)
    The real heavyweights in Maui (Michigan State, Kentucky) won't be seriously tested until later in the event, but this first-round matchup could feature a pair of at-large bubble teams. The Shockers hope to avoid the bubble altogether by winning the Missouri Valley Conference.

    ...

    Kansas Jayhawks vs. Arizona Wildcats
    (Nov. 27, Las Vegas Invitational)
    The Wildcats could be on the verge of a breakthrough in Sean Miller's second season. They may also be catching the Jayhawks at a good time, before KU's experience and eligibility issues are settled. It's also worth watching Kansas the previous night against MAC favorite Ohio U.
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    How in the world can the 8th or 9th rated conference and the pre-season Valley pick still be relegated to a "Bubble Team"... I can understand "expected Missouri Valley Champion" or "expected at large pick."

    Time for the MoVal to pony up or for the Shockers to saddle up.

    The Missouri Valley Conference is turning into the worst possible scenario for a Head Coach. Not a poor enough conference like the Big South where a good coach can dominate and get easy access to the NCAA tournament, and not good enough like the CUSA, MWC, or BCS leagues where numerous picks seem to be automatic.

    Let's hope for our sake that Wichita State does not have a great year, lose the MoVal tournament and get left out. HCGM will be looking around out of pure frustration.

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    • #3
      Re: Lunardi Reports

      Originally posted by Shox21
      Connecticut Huskies vs. Wichita State Shockers
      (Nov. 22, ESPN2, Maui Classic)
      The real heavyweights in Maui (Michigan State, Kentucky) won't be seriously tested until later in the event, but this first-round matchup could feature a pair of at-large bubble teams. The Shockers hope to avoid the bubble altogether by winning the Missouri Valley Conference.
      Hypothetical question:

      Let's pretend we lose only two games this year -- we knock off UConn and then Mich. St. (remember this is hypothetical), and then lose to Kentucky in the final. Then ... we run the table and win every game for the rest of the season, leading up to the dance -- except one.

      And let's say UConn ends up being a "just out of the bubble team" -- they are definitely in the tournament, but are one of the lowest ranked teams in their conference that is going to dance.

      When it's time for the selection committee to do its thing, who would be seeded higher, us or UConn?
      Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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      • #4
        We would be a top 25 team the whole year and top 10 a good part of it. We would have a very nice seed.
        In the fast lane

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        • #5
          Wichita State was a bubble team last year, not this year IMHO.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by tropicalshox
            We would be a top 25 team the whole year and top 10 a good part of it. We would have a very nice seed.
            No doubt we would.

            But does the hot mid major easily beat out a middle of the pack, former NCAA champion, Big East school in the seeding or does the selection committee screw 'em?

            I haven't paid that much attention since the point's been moot lately.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Kung Wu
              Originally posted by tropicalshox
              We would be a top 25 team the whole year and top 10 a good part of it. We would have a very nice seed.
              No doubt we would.

              But does the hot mid major easily beat out a middle of the pack, former NCAA champion, Big East school in the seeding or does the selection committee screw 'em?

              I haven't paid that much attention since the point's been moot lately.
              If we were a Top 10 or close to it team we'd be higher than whatever UCONN would be in this scenario. We'd likely be 4 or better and they'd be around 10 or so I'd guess.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by SubGod22
                Originally posted by Kung Wu
                Originally posted by tropicalshox
                We would be a top 25 team the whole year and top 10 a good part of it. We would have a very nice seed.
                No doubt we would.

                But does the hot mid major easily beat out a middle of the pack, former NCAA champion, Big East school in the seeding or does the selection committee screw 'em?

                I haven't paid that much attention since the point's been moot lately.
                If we were a Top 10 or close to it team we'd be higher than whatever UCONN would be in this scenario. We'd likely be 4 or better and they'd be around 10 or so I'd guess.
                OK, so if you are getting THAT much attention, they can't ignore you. Good deal. That gives me a little hope for good mid major programs. The crappy deals all happen if you are near the bubble -- makes sense.
                Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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                • #9
                  Some of u are setting yourselves up for disappointment. The shox play in the valley, better win the valley tourney or more than likely it's NIT.

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                  • #10
                    Some of u are setting yourselves up for disappointment. The shox play in the valley, better win the valley tourney or more than likely it's NIT.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Lunardi Reports

                      Originally posted by Kung Wu

                      Let's pretend we lose only two games this year -- we knock off UConn and then Mich. St. (remember this is hypothetical), and then lose to Kentucky in the final. Then ... we run the table and win every game for the rest of the season, leading up to the dance -- except one.

                      And let's say UConn ends up being a "just out of the bubble team" -- they are definitely in the tournament, but are one of the lowest ranked teams in their conference that is going to dance.

                      When it's time for the selection committee to do its thing, who would be seeded higher, us or UConn?

                      Don't know the answer, but let me say I wouldn't mind finding out!

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                      • #12
                        Re: Lunardi Reports

                        Originally posted by WuDrWu
                        Originally posted by Kung Wu

                        Let's pretend we lose only two games this year -- we knock off UConn and then Mich. St. (remember this is hypothetical), and then lose to Kentucky in the final. Then ... we run the table and win every game for the rest of the season, leading up to the dance -- except one.

                        And let's say UConn ends up being a "just out of the bubble team" -- they are definitely in the tournament, but are one of the lowest ranked teams in their conference that is going to dance.

                        When it's time for the selection committee to do its thing, who would be seeded higher, us or UConn?

                        Don't know the answer, but let me say I wouldn't mind finding out!
                        Haha -- this hypothetical is much more appropriate for Butler. Sorta seems pertinent for KSU, the honorary mid-major, this year too.
                        Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Veritas
                          How in the world can the 8th or 9th rated conference and the pre-season Valley pick still be relegated to a "Bubble Team"... I can understand "expected Missouri Valley Champion" or "expected at large pick."

                          Time for the MoVal to pony up or for the Shockers to saddle up.

                          The Missouri Valley Conference is turning into the worst possible scenario for a Head Coach. Not a poor enough conference like the Big South where a good coach can dominate and get easy access to the NCAA tournament, and not good enough like the CUSA, MWC, or BCS leagues where numerous picks seem to be automatic.

                          Let's hope for our sake that Wichita State does not have a great year, lose the MoVal tournament and get left out. HCGM will be looking around out of pure frustration.
                          Because, we play in the Valley. A one-bid conference for some time now. One fluke of a year in 2005-06 doesn't suddenly transform this conference into a multi-bid league. The Shox still have not done anything in the NCAA's for 20 years other than one magical season. Until we start becoming a consistent winner, get help from other Valley teams and put together consistent runs into the NCAA's the Shockers will continue to be looked at as a bubble team in a mid-major conference.

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                          • #14
                            We will be a bubble team again if we don't screw it up. You can't lose to UE. You can't lose to DU either. How many games last year did we just look flat? You can't tell me that all teams go through that because the good teams fight through things like that!!! The only way we wont be a bubble team is if we Stomp a mudhole in everyone we play!!! :yahoo: :posterwu: :clap: Not trying to be a downer but just excited and don't want to get let down.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Ta town
                              Some of u are setting yourselves up for disappointment. The shox play in the valley, better win the valley tourney or more than likely it's NIT.
                              We were answering a hypothetical question. I doubt if any of expect the season to go that
                              well.
                              In the fast lane

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