Buffs’ Boyle on the rise

[vancedave56]

Re: Yep

OMG....was that VCU ????

So, BracketBusters haters, how about that? Do you think that road win over WSU might have helped them a bit, just as George Mason's win here did five years ago?

Once again, we see that the Shocks' big problem with BracketBusters is simply the inability to win. (And yes, I still believe the foul on Ragland was bogus.) I'm no great Doug Elgin admirer, but there's nothing wrong with his pet event -- just with WSU does with it. Here it keeps giving WSU a chance for a good win that might improve a marginal resume, and the Shocks keep giving it away instead. Very frustrating, but no one's fault except their own.

Agree

[ShockerFever]

Re: Yep

OMG....was that VCU ????

So, BracketBusters haters, how about that? Do you think that road win over WSU might have helped them a bit, just as George Mason's win here did five years ago?

Once again, we see that the Shocks' big problem with BracketBusters is simply the inability to win. (And yes, I still believe the foul on Ragland was bogus.) I'm no great Doug Elgin admirer, but there's nothing wrong with his pet event -- just with WSU does with it. Here it keeps giving WSU a chance for a good win that might improve a marginal resume, and the Shocks keep giving it away instead. Very frustrating, but no one's fault except their own.

Rarely, RARELY, do I agree with the PuppyWatcher, but he's right.

Please read the above post, shox1989.

[ShoxFan45]

So I was just bored and wondering exactly how Colorado gets left out, and UAB and VCU get in, and decided to look at the numbers a little closer. The wins against Texas and Kstate three times are worth a lot, but I can see where the SC was coming from. Not saying I agree with it, just showing the numbers.

I compared UAB to Colorado in this instance.



UAB: RPI: 31

Average RPI win: 160
Average RPI loss: 64

10-1 vs. RPI 150+

10-7 vs. >100 RPI

1-4 vs. >50 RPI (VCU)

1 <100 RPI losses

Colorado: RPI: 65

Average RPI win: 162
Average RPI loss: 60

10-0 vs. RPI 150+

8-10 vs. >100 RPI

6-7 vs. >50 RPI (KSU X3, Colo St., Texas, Mizzou) Colo st. not in the field.

3 <100 RPI losses

Thing that really jumps out to me is the records against top 100 RPI. Does the five "name brand" wins for Colorado outweigh the differences in records? Those wins are big, but we are talking about wins over 4, 5, and 11 seeds in the NCAA tournament. I think people forget how much Texas dropped off the radar.

Those wins might outweigh the top 100 records, but I think its close. Honestly I still think that Colorado deserved to be in over UAB. But the numbers show it isn't as cut and dry as some people make it look.

I may do more comparisons like these later, it's my week off :)

[shocker3]

So I was just bored and wondering exactly how Colorado gets left out, and UAB and VCU get in, and decided to look at the numbers a little closer. The wins against Texas and Kstate three times are worth a lot, but I can see where the SC was coming from. Not saying I agree with it, just showing the numbers.

I compared UAB to Colorado in this instance.



UAB: RPI: 31

Average RPI win: 160
Average RPI loss: 64

10-1 vs. RPI 150+

10-7 vs. >100 RPI

1-4 vs. >50 RPI (VCU)

1 <100 RPI losses

Colorado: RPI: 65

Average RPI win: 162
Average RPI loss: 60

10-0 vs. RPI 150+

8-10 vs. >100 RPI

6-7 vs. >50 RPI (KSU X3, Colo St., Texas, Mizzou) Colo st. not in the field.

3 <100 RPI losses

Thing that really jumps out to me is the records against top 100 RPI. Does the five "name brand" wins for Colorado outweigh the differences in records? Those wins are big, but we are talking about wins over 4, 5, and 11 seeds in the NCAA tournament. I think people forget how much Texas dropped off the radar.

Those wins might outweigh the top 100 records, but I think its close. Honestly I still think that Colorado deserved to be in over UAB. But the numbers show it isn't as cut and dry as some people make it look.

I may do more comparisons like these later, it's my week off :)

UAB was also 9-5 on the road while Colorado was 3-9.

In addition UAB finished first in the 8th ranked conference, Colorado finished 6th in the 3rd ranked conference.

Finally Colorado had one of the weakest non-conference schedules in the country which really hurt their rpi (65 vs. 31 for UAB).

[WuDrWu]

I think this had as much to do with it as anything:


If you let Colorado in, you basically tell ALL the Bcs teams that non-conference scheduling means absolutely NOTHING.

If a middling .500 Bcs team gets in when they play a non-con as BAD as Colorado did and has an RPI of 65, then it's over for all the other teams.

We all have a soft spot for CU, and it is well deserved and they did some great things this year, but you have to do more than win a couple of decent games to get an at large.


I'm not necessarily arguing for UAB or VCU, but it's not hard to see why CU was left out.

[jocoshock]

For what it's worth, Jay Bilas actually said the Bracket Busters was becoming counterproductive penalizing teams like MoSt and others who play in it and lose.

[Capitol Shock]

Did they drag Jay back to the bathroom and wash his mouth out with soap when he said that?