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  • UConn 11/22 - HUGE game in Maui

    I'm not a fan of using the "must win game" cliché very often and certainly not in the 2nd game of the season so I will call this a "probably need to win" game due to what it will do to our RPI and perception. Here is what I think a win or loss in this game will do for us.

    If we lose
    • UConn isn't exactly the juggernaut that they usually are as it looks like this could be another tough year for them like last year and I don't think the selection committee would just brush off a loss to them like some years.

      If we lose we have to play Div. 2 Chaminade which will be an absolutely worthless game.

      We would end up most likely playing Oklahoma or Virginia in the 5th place game, not horrible opponents but not great RPI opportunities like winning the game would open.

      Our Maui schedule would most likely look like UConn, Chaminade, and Oklahoma/Virginia, not great.

      How often does WSU get to play this kind of big named opponent? Not very often and this is a game that we not only can win but should win if we really are the Vallley fave, it would be a disappointment for the program to lose.


    If we win
    • Even though Connecticut is probably going to be down this year they were down last year with an 18-16 record and were still 65th in the NCAA official RPI.

      Beating UConn is always going to impress the selection committee, we all know how much they value a named program over a less known program even if the teams are basically the same.

      We get to play Michigan State, a final four team from last year that is going to be in the top 10 this year and more likely be around the top 5.

      Even if the Shockers lose to Mich St. our next game would likely be against either Kentucky or (probably) Washington.

      Our Maui schedule would most likely look like UConn, Michigan St., and Kentucky/Washington. Wow, what an opportunity.

      All of WSU's important non-conference games are either at neutral sites or on the road and a victory in the first major test away from home could really help boost the rest of the non-con.

      If WSU were to win 2 of 3 games (and Chaminade not be one of those teams) then I don't think the Maui Invitational would have any other choice but to invite us back sometime in the near future to the best pre-season tournament around.


    People might wonder why I would call this game huge when obviously games against Michigan St. and Kentucky/Washington would be bigger but as I've said we have to beat UConn to get to those two games. If we lose to UConn our big win of the tournament could be against Virginia 15-16 127th in the final RPI last year or Oklahoma 13-18 and was 128th in the RPI. If we don't get an actual big win in Maui then we would be in a postion where we would really need the win @San Diego State (very tough game to win) and the Tulsa game then the rest of our schedule is the five abysmal home games and a horrible LSU team who was 238th in the RPI last season, I think we would be in the position of not having alot of room for error in our Valley games.

    :posterwu:

    I'm pretty excited about this game and here tells you how long until tipoff.

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    Re: UConn 11/22 - HUGE game in Maui

    Originally posted by bunck
    I'm not a fan of using the "must win game" cliché ....
    You might want to check out the schedule thread. I'm sure you think your breaking new ground, but this has already been discussed over the last month.


    How often does WSU get to play this kind of big named opponent? Not very often
    2010 Pittsburgh (18 )

    2009 Georgtown (65)
    2009 Siena (17 )
    2009 Michigan St (4 )
    2009 Texas Tech

    2008 Baylor (51 )
    2008 LSU

    2007 LSU
    2007 Syracuse
    2007 USC

    2006 Illinois (fixed)
    2006 Michigan St (18 )
    2006 Seton Hall (58 )
    2006 Tennessee (6) :band:

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    • #3
      Re: UConn 11/22 - HUGE game in Maui

      Originally posted by SB Shock
      2006 Arkansas
      Illinois?


      You can also throw in Providence in 2006 as well.
      Deuces Valley.
      ... No really, deuces.
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      - a smart man

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      • #4
        Re: UConn 11/22 - HUGE game in Maui

        Originally posted by ShockerFever
        Originally posted by SB Shock
        2006 Arkansas
        Illinois?


        You can also throw in Providence in 2006 as well.
        Yeah your right. I don't know why I was thinking Arkansas,

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        • #5
          Re: UConn 11/22 - HUGE game in Maui

          "You might want to check out the schedule thread. I'm sure you think your breaking new ground, but this has already been discussed over the last month."



          What a d*ck response SB. Who cares if a topic has been repeated? Just skip over it if you've already read it...to take the time to type out a response like this shows you're an a$$hat.

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          • #6
            Come on Hurley, I think most of us thought something similar. It is all something that has been discussed and agreed upon for quite some time now.
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            • #7
              "Breaking news"

              The Earth is round and the sky is blue.

              Also, the Cubs won the World Series. Oh wait, that's just something from a 'Back to the Future' movie.

              Never mind. 8)
              Above all, make the right call.

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              • #8
                Re: UConn 11/22 - HUGE game in Maui

                Originally posted by Hurley
                "You might want to check out the schedule thread. I'm sure you think your breaking new ground, but this has already been discussed over the last month."



                What a d*ck response SB. Who cares if a topic has been repeated? Just skip over it if you've already read it...to take the time to type out a response like this shows you're an ####hat.
                Whoa, whoa. You are being a little harsh.
                "Prediction is very difficult, especially if it is about the future."

                --Niels Bohr







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                • #9
                  I'll go out on a limb, and we'll know by March if I was right or wrong: UConn will win 20+ games this year. I think Walker is that good, period (and Calhoun won't be bringing in any stiffs to his team this year... not after an 18-16 season).

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                  • #10
                    Re: UConn 11/22 - HUGE game in Maui

                    Originally posted by Hurley
                    What a d*ck response SB. Who cares if a topic has been repeated?
                    I was just giving him some advice where he might want to find some relevant discussion. Most are not going to want to come over here and repeat everything they just said.

                    2nd I was just pointing out the flaw in his argument with a few facts. The basic premise that "must win" vs UCONN or the season is over is wrong anyway. NCAA judges you on your full body of work, not just one game. Sure, WSU winning MAUI will make the path much easier, but as we saw in 2006-07 season - you can do well during non-conference, but if you screw up Conference it won't matter.

                    There were plenty of games last year that people kept saying WSU season was over when it wasn't. What hurt WSU last year was losing to pit-hole teams like Drake and Evansville.

                    Just skip over it if you've already read it...to take the time to type out a response like this shows you're an ####hat.
                    You might want to take your own advice as I think you showed your the ####hat.

                    :whistle:

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                    • #11
                      A UCONN win would be groovy but not near enough. Jim Calhoun is a solid Coach and I expect a very close game. We glean from History lessons from around 2007, that huge wins are not even enough. That Season, we beat the Cuse at the Dome, sent a sea of orange of 24,000 disappointed fans home with shocked suds in their orange buckets as we laughed all the way to the bank at Fort Chuck with green-backs hanging out of our bountiful pockets. We beat The Big Baby and LSU, and soon became #8 in the Country. Then what ensued can glean us hard lessons from our own past history. The funk that happened in Vegas, did not stay in Vegas, and we did a B52 nose dive thereafter in the Valley, that haunts my lil 'pea brain' to this very day.

                      Winning the Valley is not even enough. We need our first 'Lou Dew total makeover sweep' to prevent leaving our final destiny to the discretion of others, but rather determine our own fate. Thus, it will not be a cakewalk, there will be no free cupcakes, but maybe a few stale nachos to consume, and a hope for some black and gold kool-aide to endulge "down the Hatch" at the March Dance.
                      Is this too much to ask? It is too early to tell, with no guarantees, but I think we have a solid shot at it with this Season's Squad. Stay tuned!!!!!!!
                      Shocker basketball will forever be my favorite team in all of sports.

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                      • #12
                        Isn't it an ###hat? I'm not sure what a ####hat is?

                        :)
                        Wichita State, home of the All-Americans.

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                        • #13
                          This is a big game and might deserve a thread of it's own if it hadn'tbeen talked to death in other thread. Here's a tip read the board! Yes we all understand UCon is huge. maybe make or break for this shocker team,

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                          • #14
                            I've read all the talk about being a down year for UCONN, but Calhoun is a good coach, and he will whip his team into shape. I am sure that a couple of freshmen will prove to be good players, or otherwise they wouldn't have been recruited, right?

                            No matter how you look at it, it will not be an easy game for us. Is it winnable, yes, I think so, but we have to play good, and it only being the 2nd game of the season will also play into it. If we aren't ready for this game, I don't think we will win.

                            Another thing, the Shockers do not have the best track record for playing 2-3 games in a row in a short time span. They seem to drop the ball in one of the games almost everytime, or we would have won the tourney in St. Louis last year.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Snapshot9
                              I've read all the talk about being a down year for UCONN, but Calhoun is a good coach, and he will whip his team into shape. I am sure that a couple of freshmen will prove to be good players, or otherwise they wouldn't have been recruited, right?

                              No matter how you look at it, it will not be an easy game for us. Is it winnable, yes, I think so, but we have to play good, and it only being the 2nd game of the season will also play into it. If we aren't ready for this game, I don't think we will win.

                              Another thing, the Shockers do not have the best track record for playing 2-3 games in a row in a short time span. They seem to drop the ball in one of the games almost everytime, or we would have won the tourney in St. Louis last year.
                              But this year we are DEEP! I don't think we will have a problem with 3 games

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