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  • Conference Re-Alignment -- Not over, and has Football here

    I have become privvy to some information in the past 24 hours, of which I cannot help but share for the good of the cause.

    Published reports in the next couple of days will present the following quandry to Shocker fans, surrounding of all things, football.

    The Valley recently completed its annual media days, highlighted by some words from Football Commish/Asst Commish Overall Patty Viverito.

    In short, the Valley is now a nine-team 1AA/FCS football conference (Ill State, Ind State, Missou State, N. Iowa, N.Dak. State, S.Dak. State, Southern Illinois, Western Illinois & Youngstown State).

    Many of us remember the Michigan/App. State game from a few years ago -- App State is a member of the CAA, which recently moved to a 12-team football league. Since moving to a 12-team league, the conference's prestige has increased significantly, cited by increased playoff berths in FCS football play.

    Valley Commish Viverito remarked (in simplified words here) that she would like to see the Valley move to a similar format to keep pace - specifically in football - during the recent media days. The Valley is conducting campus visits at Univ. of N. Dakota and Univ. of S. Dakota later this year, and unless something out of the ordinary comes up, those two institutions will become members of the league in football.

    Where we come in:

    To make the numbers work, as per Commish Viverito's wishes, and give the Valley a 12th team, there are few options on the table.

    Published reports will begin to speculate that Wichita State may be this 12th team. Other possibilities include Nebraska-Omaha (still competing at Division-II), other Valley non-football institutions (Drake, Bradley, etc.) or a darkhorse (dependent on what schools in the Big Sky choose to do, pending Montana's latest look at moving to I-A/FBS).

    I will post links to such reports/speculation as they come available, some of which I expect to see in the next 24-48 hours.

    Questions to Shocker Fans:

    This obviously opens a whole can of worms. Would Wichita support I-AA football? Is the University even going to seriously pursue this? Has anyone heard similar rumblings on this idea/proposal?

    And, in the conspiracy theorist in me, is this something that has been discussed at the "top" and has perhaps led to the recent turnover in our athletic department -- people leaving b/c they don't want to go down this road or compete with a new top-tier, costly program at the school?

    I will hang up and listen to your answer(s) off the air....

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    Re: Conference Re-Alignment -- Not over, and has Football he

    Originally posted by sdshox
    Published reports will begin to speculate that Wichita State may be this 12th team. Other possibilities include Nebraska-Omaha (still competing at Division-II), other Valley non-football institutions (Drake, Bradley, etc.) or a darkhorse (dependent on what schools in the Big Sky choose to do, pending Montana's latest look at moving to I-A/FBS).
    As much as I would like for us to get football, I'd have to rank that scenario as last on the list of possibilities.

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    • #3
      200

      The number of replies this topic will receive in the next 3 days. 8)
      Above all, make the right call.

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        201

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        • #5
          My friend, I've heard nothing but I'd love to see us move that direction. I know it's football, but at least it sounds like the Valley is trying to do something to help the conference in some way.

          And if we ever want to play FBS football we have to start at the FCS level. And I still believe the money will be there if the leaders of this fine institution ever sit down and come up with a game plan. Big money won't be thrown at this kind of thing without it.

          If nothing else, this gives us something else to look into until things start picking up around here.
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          • #6
            I can't wait to read the "published reports"! :whistle:

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            • #7
              This makes sense now. I saw the ADES in "play-it-again sports" last week. He was looking at football equipment.

              I just thought maybe he had a son playing pee-wee football, now I see he was looking to see what it would cost for WSU to play pee-wee football. :D

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              • #8
                Re: Conference Re-Alignment -- Not over, and has Football he

                Originally posted by sdshox
                And, in the conspiracy theorist in me, is this something that has been discussed at the "top" and has perhaps led to the recent turnover in our athletic department -- people leaving b/c they don't want to go down this road or compete with a new top-tier, costly program at the school?
                It could be the other way around too. It could be that some of those folks were let go because they don't have experience with football. And of course their leaving could be completely unrelated to your scoop.
                Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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                • #9
                  I'm not sure that WSU could even afford to update all the facilities (locker rooms, dormitories, concessions, ADA compliancies, another Title sport for women, etc.), less yet afford 50 scholarships and hope of being able to get enough people in the stands to make the payments. We are talking hundreds of millions $ here.

                  Unfortunately, I do not see this happening with the rough economy assured ahead of us.

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                  • #10
                    Ill State, Ind State, Missou State, N. Iowa, N.Dak. State, S.Dak. State, Southern Illinois, Western Illinois & Youngstown State.

                    We wouldn't have to upgrade any facilities to play that schedule. We could just shut down any portions of Cessna that aren't ADA compliant. There would still be plenty of room.

                    We could schedule BuCo JuCo for an exhibition game so we could have at least one quality opponent in the stadium each year. Of course BuCo would probably insist on a home-and-home.
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                    • #11
                      I'd support I-AA football as a start to a more ambitious plan. The next 2-5 years could see major shake-ups with conference affiliation. I wouldn't be surprised to see CSU, KSU, MSU, Tulsa, WSU, Wyoming and some Texas schools form a midwest or Great Plains conference. The highlight football game being the Dust Bowl. :D

                      I do not believe the change of employees in the AD's office has anything to do with adding football. That would be pretty strategic and strategy is not something I'd consider ADES's strong point unless he's more like the CIA in that you never know his successes. One never knows...

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                      • #12
                        I wish the football discussion would just die. Unless we get an alum who wins a 250 million dollar powerball jackpot and donates all of it to the university to spring from the ashes football, then this is a mute topic.

                        If we ever do football, it will be FBS or bust. Our crumbling and antiquated football stadium needs 20-30 million in a major facelift to make all of us proud to call it home field advantage and not be embarassed by the current eyesore.

                        Where are we going to get all the scholarship money for the money losing women's sports?

                        Right now, we need to focus our efforts in keeping up with the Jones' in basketball and baseball.

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                        • #13
                          OK, From today's Argus Leader (Sioux Falls, S.D.):

                          Article One:

                          Valley/Summit League to conduct feasability study regarding football expansion



                          Article Two:

                          Valley/Summit League study and options for football (including specifically mentioning Wichita State as a possibility that would/could/should be explored)

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                          • #14
                            I will admit that everything is speculation at this point, but would like to reiterate that right here, right now, Wichita State has as good of an opportunity to add football and join a full-fledged league as ever.

                            While I understand the hesitation with I-AA/FCS affiliation, it is interesting to see how close to reality this could truly be, and to think about the affect it might have on our other sports...

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                            • #15
                              I'd be as excited to watch 1-AA football as I would be to watch 'Say Yes To The Dress' with my wife. :shock:

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