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    Does anyone know how this was run? I know that the player running deep was interchangeable hence the success of the play. JT got the throw against Texas Tech, Toure and Graham some other times and I think even Garrett got it once. Clevin was always breaking towards the ball since he was our best ball handler.


    Anyways I am just curious because this play was extremely successful this past season.
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  • #2
    As I recall watching it and then hearing about it in post game, it's was usually Murry throwing the ball. The rest is basically like a deep pattern in football with a screen to open up the receiver at the "line of scrimmage".

    It was interesting when Garrett got it. It wasn't exactly the home run. Garrett just managed to get open around mid-court, so he got the throw. Stutz caught the ball and waited for someone to break. No one broke and Garrett found himself all alone at mid-court and only his defender between him and the basket. So Stutz did what any 7' guy would do. He drove to the hoop from half-court, including a cross-over to dribble left-handed as he broke past the defender.

    The cross-over wasn't pretty and there was a moment when you couldn't tell for sure if Stutz was still dribbling or if he was chasing the ball, but he got it under control, stayed ahead of his defender and made the layup.

    I've seen Stutz do that twice, so it's probably a planned play for Stutz to go one-on-one from half-court against a post defender who doesn't run the court well.

    "Doesn't run the court well" is a kind way to say that. Garrett isn't exactly fleet of foot, but he can dribble while running.
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    • #3
      Perhaps the play is in Coach Marshall's play book available for trade:

      In the fast lane

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      • #4
        My favorite was Matty B launching an alley oop to PJ from half court, pretty sure that in GG's first year.

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        • #5
          It's not a play as much as it is a "read".

          Much of what is run (successfully) at the college level is much more about reading and reacting to positioning as it is actual set plays or set pieces.

          That's just one reason that teams with intelligent kids often times perform well above their physical abilities.

          The repetitive motions that so many of us may remember from our youth are simply not a big part of college ball. Not that they don't have a place, and Gregg uses a lot of set pieces to start possessions, but those types of sets are just too easy to defend if the 2 teams are even remotely competitive physically.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by WuDrWu
            That's just one reason that teams with intelligent kids often times perform well above their physical abilities.
            Hence, Duke v. Butler in the title game.

            Those were a bunch of kids much smarter than I.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by WuDrWu
              It's not a play as much as it is a "read".

              Much of what is run (successfully) at the college level is much more about reading and reacting to positioning as it is actual set plays or set pieces.

              That's just one reason that teams with intelligent kids often times perform well above their physical abilities.

              The repetitive motions that so many of us may remember from our youth are simply not a big part of college ball. Not that they don't have a place, and Gregg uses a lot of set pieces to start possessions, but those types of sets are just too easy to defend if the 2 teams are even remotely competitive physically.
              Agreed. Offense, in its simplest form is just a way to space the floor. The rest is reacting to how the defense is playing you.
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              • #8
                That was the hard part when I coached Middle School basketball. Getting the kids to not look at the offense as where I have to be and the ball has to go but seeing what's there and reading what's available. It was so frustrating watching kids go thru the motions without seeing the possibilities in front of them. They picked it up at some point in HS but it was hard when I had them. A couple managed to get it at some point during the season...

                But Doc is right, it's the blueprint but not set in stone and reading and reacting is what makes things work.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SubGod22
                  That was the hard part when I coached Middle School basketball. Getting the kids to not look at the offense as where I have to be and the ball has to go but seeing what's there and reading what's available. It was so frustrating watching kids go thru the motions without seeing the possibilities in front of them. They picked it up at some point in HS but it was hard when I had them. A couple managed to get it at some point during the season...

                  But Doc is right, it's the blueprint but not set in stone and reading and reacting is what makes things work.
                  I coached 4th graders this past year and tried teaching a little bit of that. What I found was if they had the ball in their hands, they could read the defense and take advantage if a hole developed. But without the ball in their hands, they either just went to the spots the "offense" said to go or they just wandered around, not able to do either one (read the defense or follow the offense).

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                  • #10
                    Apparently it's tougher than I remember. I was probably the same way when I was little. I don't remember it like that but that was a long time ago
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