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  • Originally posted by Veritas
    Originally posted by 60Shock
    If we don't start marketing ourselves soon, just what level of schools do you believe we are going to be competing against in 10 - 15 years in the downward spiraling MVC?

    And perhaps more important, do you really want to pay for season tickets to play against a lower level of competition than we are playing against now?
    That's the crux of the issue. If you want quality and play against quality, you need to pay for quality.
    Options:
    1. ADES gets WSU into either a new or existing power/prestigious basketball conference
    2. ADES brings back football and thus building towards the future and a spot in a more powerful/solid conference
    3. Remain status quo and watch the MoVal become weaker and weaker with the likes of SIU, ISU(blue), UE, and Drakes of the world. Imagine MSU replaced by UMKC, or IlSU replaced with a Dakota school. Ugh!

    I suppose there is a 4th option, and that involves Elgin replacing some of the weaker programs with stronger programs. I can't see that happening- unfortunately.

    One thing Elgin could do right away is to bring back the 150 rpi scheduling rule.

    That would force some of the weaker teams to either increase their commitment to basketball or drop out of the Valley.

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    • Originally posted by Veritas
      Originally posted by 60Shock
      If we don't start marketing ourselves soon, just what level of schools do you believe we are going to be competing against in 10 - 15 years in the downward spiraling MVC?

      And perhaps more important, do you really want to pay for season tickets to play against a lower level of competition than we are playing against now?
      That's the crux of the issue. If you want quality and play against quality, you need to pay for quality.
      Options:
      1. ADES gets WSU into either a new or existing power/prestigious basketball conference
      2. ADES brings back football and thus building towards the future and a spot in a more powerful/solid conference
      3. Remain status quo and watch the MoVal become weaker and weaker with the likes of SIU, ISU(blue), UE, and Drakes of the world. Imagine MSU replaced by UMKC, or IlSU replaced with a Dakota school. Ugh!

      I suppose there is a 4th option, and that involves Elgin replacing some of the weaker programs with stronger programs. I can't see that happening- unfortunately.
      No truer words were ever spoken. This is like people complaining about the quality of school teachers or policemen....you get what you pay for.

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      • Originally posted by shox1989
        Originally posted by Veritas
        Originally posted by 60Shock
        If we don't start marketing ourselves soon, just what level of schools do you believe we are going to be competing against in 10 - 15 years in the downward spiraling MVC?

        And perhaps more important, do you really want to pay for season tickets to play against a lower level of competition than we are playing against now?
        That's the crux of the issue. If you want quality and play against quality, you need to pay for quality.
        Options:
        1. ADES gets WSU into either a new or existing power/prestigious basketball conference
        2. ADES brings back football and thus building towards the future and a spot in a more powerful/solid conference
        3. Remain status quo and watch the MoVal become weaker and weaker with the likes of SIU, ISU(blue), UE, and Drakes of the world. Imagine MSU replaced by UMKC, or IlSU replaced with a Dakota school. Ugh!

        I suppose there is a 4th option, and that involves Elgin replacing some of the weaker programs with stronger programs. I can't see that happening- unfortunately.

        One thing Elgin could do right away is to bring back the 150 rpi scheduling rule.

        That would force some of the weaker teams to either increase their commitment to basketball or drop out of the Valley.
        I would normally agree with this. Although with the recent article showing how hard Marshall is having at getting quality teams on the schedule....it may be near impossible to achieve that. Unless we do like all of the Alcorn St's of the world and just play on the road for most of the non-conference.....
        "He called me around noon and was thrilled," Brandt said. "He said he was going to be a Shocker forever." -- RIP Guy, you WILL indeed be a Shocker forever!

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        • Originally posted by shockerfan
          Originally posted by shox1989
          Originally posted by Veritas
          Originally posted by 60Shock
          If we don't start marketing ourselves soon, just what level of schools do you believe we are going to be competing against in 10 - 15 years in the downward spiraling MVC?

          And perhaps more important, do you really want to pay for season tickets to play against a lower level of competition than we are playing against now?
          That's the crux of the issue. If you want quality and play against quality, you need to pay for quality.
          Options:
          1. ADES gets WSU into either a new or existing power/prestigious basketball conference
          2. ADES brings back football and thus building towards the future and a spot in a more powerful/solid conference
          3. Remain status quo and watch the MoVal become weaker and weaker with the likes of SIU, ISU(blue), UE, and Drakes of the world. Imagine MSU replaced by UMKC, or IlSU replaced with a Dakota school. Ugh!

          I suppose there is a 4th option, and that involves Elgin replacing some of the weaker programs with stronger programs. I can't see that happening- unfortunately.

          One thing Elgin could do right away is to bring back the 150 rpi scheduling rule.

          That would force some of the weaker teams to either increase their commitment to basketball or drop out of the Valley.
          I would normally agree with this. Although with the recent article showing how hard Marshall is having at getting quality teams on the schedule....it may be near impossible to achieve that. Unless we do like all of the Alcorn St's of the world and just play on the road for most of the non-conference.....
          Gene manages to do it in baseball every year. I know it isn't easy. But at least the BB team plays indoors, so there isn't a weather related reason to keep teams from coming to Wichita to play.

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          • That's true Shox1989. I think though that it is getting extremely more difficult for Gene to schedule. We've recently lost Arkansas and Oklahoma, and I can only imagine that WSU might lose a few more.

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