Pack 10 expansion

[sandyrains]

Who will blink first?

[Veritas]

It looks like the Big XII blinked first. I really don't know what options exist for Beebe, but they are certainly laying it on the line for a few of the schools.
Perhaps we'll see the Pac 10 and Big 10 make early offers. Beebe might have forced reallignment war.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5257088

[Snapshot9]

Just my opinion, but I think the conferences will stay the same for the 10/11 season. Beebe requiring Nebraska and Missouri to tell him whether they are staying or going to the Big10 (even before an official invite) will expediate the offers from the Big10 and Pac10, I think. And that deadline is this coming Friday, which might extend to a week from Tuesday.

Schools in the Big12 only receiving roughly 40% of what Big10 schools receive is a big problem. The Big12 needs to renegotiate their TV rights with ESPN through 2015. I think this is imperiative for the Big12 to survive.

Considering how many teams the Big12 gets into the Big Dance versus the Big10, the money received by the schools seems to be a large disparity. In other words, the Big12 schools are performing better for the money they receive than what the Big10 schools are doing as a whole.

As a Basketball fan, about the only teams from the Big10 I would be interested in watching, outside of the Big Dance, would be Michigan State and maybe Ohio State. Illinois you say, no, I don't like Bruce (or the other one either). Minnesota and Wisconsin only if they had a real good team.

From an interest standpoint, 4-5 teams from the Big12 have improved in recent years and in doing so have increased interest in the conference, and for watching games on TV. Right offhand, Baylor, ATM, Texas Tech,
K-State have improved their programs and interest. And I am a firm believer that Tad Boyle will improve Colorado's program greatly in the future. (noteably though Oklahoma and Oklahoma State have performed under par the last couple of years).

[pinstripers]

No idea what kind of ultimatum is being discussed. What is it, tell us you are not leaving or we'll kick you out?

[lostshocker]

No idea what kind of ultimatum is being discussed. What is it, tell us you are not leaving or we'll kick you out?

it's more of the texas taking it's ball and the 5 other south division teams to the pac 10.

[shockyhawky]

dooms day?

[Ashockalypse]

Missouri is tired of being in the back seat and has a chance to upgrade at least in money.

I'm confounded by Nebraska's position. Maybe they think they will stay even in Football and compete better in basketball.

I don't understand where KU and KState or Iowa State will end up if the Big 10 and Pac 10 pull teams away.

I wonder what ESPN and Fox want to see because that is what is controlling everything anyway.

The NCAA sure looks pathetic in all of this. They are nothing. They just sit back and stutter hoping some of the money will end up still with them.

Implosion in the BCS.

[shock10]

Let them all go and shat on what is left hahaha

[shockball]

A familiar name is involved.

http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/12464/lunch-links-realignment-roundup

“You have to have a culture that is supportive of those kind of big ideas,” said [Kevin Weiberg, the former Big 12 commissioner who helped launch the Big Ten Network and now works as the Pac-10 deputy commissioner]. “I think the Big Ten has always been great in that regard. Working there at the time the network was struggling to gain distribution, it was remarkable how well the members really hung in there. There was very little sniping. There were a few folks who expressed frustration, but they were very limited.”

[Aargh]

A little reading between the lines comes up with some interesting, but possibly flawed, scenarios.

Start with the assumption that Texas controls the B12. Throw in the assumption that delivering an ultimatum usually ends up with a negative result.

If the B12 hits UNL and UM with a "stay or go" ultimatum that has no teeth, that increases the likelihood that they go. If they stay, relations are strained. In either case, the B12 is either defunct or wounded. If Texas is calling the shots and forcing UNL and UM into a corner, then it seems Texas is ready for the demise of the B12. That pretty much means the end of the B12 has arrived.

Texas doesn't have to be the bad guy if UNL and UM commit first.

I don't think the B12 is long for the world. KU and KSU are going to be hard-pressed to find a conference where they can maintain their BCS status. It's not going to bother the big boys to kick a few teams to the curb while they try to increase their revenues.

[WSUwatcher]

Real reason

The possible realignment has nothing to do with basketball. It's about football, which is by far the biggest moneymaking sport for those who are successful at it (not that many), and the revenue it generates. Basketball is incidental, which is why the Kansans could be on the outside looking in.

[SB Shock]

Iowa State sending out a letter saying

Iowa State and several other members of the Big 12 Conference are especially vulnerable under some of the re-alignment scenarios currently circulating, particularly one involving expansion of the Pac-10. We are doing everything in our power to represent the best interests of Iowa State in these discussions, but we also are sensitive to the huge uncertainty that has been created and recognize that the situation could evolve in directions that are not aligned with our interests.

http://www.cyclones.com/ViewArticle.dbml?&ATCLID=204955238&DB_OEM_ID=10700

[HockeyShock]

Here are my predictions:

The Big 12 will be gone by Friday. There's no way that Nebraska and Texas turn down those sort of upgrades in money, and no way the smaller schools turn down the opportunity to coattail. By Friday the Big 12 will be the Big 4.

About 3 milliseconds after the Big 12 dies, the KU ticket scandal will go national news, and the cynical part of me thinks that the NCAA will drop the hammer on them, on account of them no longer being part of a 'major' conference.

There will be a new conference formed, probably with them and some teams from C-USA and maybe the MWC, and maybe us if they decide to go with the Big East football/basketball model.

I hope ADES is hip to the opportunities that will present themselves by week's end. I suspect we'll find out soon just how good he is.

:clap: :wsu_posters: :yahoo: :clap:

[pinstripers]

I do not think there will be any opportunities for Valley teams.

[1972Shocker]

I do not think there will be any opportunities for Valley teams.

I agree and I don't see this being a moratorium on how "good" ADES is.
But you never know about the fallout from all of this realignment.

If the Pac 10 expands to 16 teams then I could see the Big 10 following suit.

KU is a possible addition to the Big 10, although you wonder if the ticket scandal will taint them enough that the Big 10 might not want to bring that baggage into their league.

K-State and Iowa State are probably in the worst postion of the all of the Big XII schools and should be the most worried about their futures.