Auburn coaching vacancy

[shockball]

Wouldn't the Auburn job be about the equivalent of Colorado or Nebraska in the B12 - or Evansville in the Valley?

Jeff Bzdelik was a hot coach when he was at Air Force.

Bzdelik just hired Tom Abatamarco as an assistant. That guy was coaching Drake when the players mutinied. They refused to take the floor! After a couple of days the reigns were given to an assistant coach and Abatamarco resigned. They finished like 13-18. One of Drakes better years.

[pinstripers]

What's wrong with the Auburn job?

[Smooth007]

Tubby Smith to Auburn?

Must not be too bad of a job.....

http://dennis-dodd.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6270202/20528708?tag=comBlogEntryListCnt;entry20528708

[pinstripers]

With lots of coaching changes, is there a chance that some player might wish to transfer to WSU after losing his head coach? Was there somebody at Charlotte or Auburn or Minnesota, etc, that we were close on, coming out of HS?

[WstateU]

What others are saying on UNI win: Coaches can find major job security at mid-major schools

http://www.wcfcourier.com/news/local/article_e0af32b0-34f9-11df-af73-001cc4c002e0.html

[60Shock]

With GM's success this year and predicted success for next year, and beyond, I think we all realize that if a very good offer comes along we stand a good chance of losing him.

But perhaps his continued success here just might also be a major reason for staying.


One possibilitly of avoiding his taking another coaching positon perhaps lies more in his ability to recruit during the next two years. If he could somehow manage to sign one or two highly rated players (similar to a Carr and a Levingston) then perhaps the likelihood of his taking another job in the near future would be significantly reduced. He has already indicated he does not want to have to start all over again. And if he had a couple of really outstanding recruits arriving, he just might decide to stick around and harvest the fruits of his labor. Just a thought.

[SHOXAAC]

Hopefully this comes across to my fellow posters the way my feeble brain sees it. Wichita State seems to be that stepping stone job for coaches. We don't have football; we aren't in one of the six power conferneces; blah, blah, blah. Somewhere out there, maybe he is already here, there is a coach that can contradict the mainstream blah'ers. I want a basketball coach at Wichita State, like our baseball coach. Although I am not a great fan of Gene, I do admire what he said early in his career about WSU developing in to a perinial baseball power. He denounced the thought of WSU not competing year-in-and-year-out because Wichita is a cold weather climate. He took that as a challenge and has basically proved the pundits wrong. He did, a few years ago, opt for OU (for a day or two); but for Gene it was like going back home (forgiven).

How many coaches have looked through rose colored glasses at the grass that was artificially painted green on the other side:

Keno Davis...from Drake...to Providence (not working so well)
Bobby Gonzalez...from Manhattan...to Seaton Hall (pink slip)
Todd Lickliter...from Butler...to Iowa (don't let the door hit you)
Greg McDermott...from UNI...to Iowa St. (any championships yet)
Stan Heath...from Kent St...to Arkansas (it worked so well, he is at South Florida)
Mick Cronin...from Murray St...to Cincy (bottom feeder)

There are certainly success stories, no doubt, but for the most part these coaches saw Cinderella all dolled up on the other side of the fence. What they already had was Cinderella without makeup. If I here another coach say its about the money, I will scream. Yes, in some casses these coaches might be making 300-600K where they are vs. making 1.whatever million across the fence. 500K in Cedar Falls or 900K in Wichita aint bad people. I will turn you on to a very good financial advisor if saving money is an issue.

I want a coach who will over time make more money than they can shake a stick at. I want a coach who wants the challenge of creating & sustaining a great program in Wichita, KS, regularly winning the MVC rather than jumping the fence just to find out Cinderella has been replaced by her ugly step sister.

Yes, Turg has had a good start at A&M, but he hasn't gotten to a sweet 16 yet (maybe today). Basketball will never be Belle of the Ball like football. I want a coach that says "screw the popular thinking...I will roll my sleeves up and create the championship caliber product that routinely wins the MVC, gets in the dance & wins games while there." Is that to much to ask?..maybe, or maybe not. Remember what Forest Gump said..."Switching college basketball jobs is like a box of chocolates...you never know what your're going to get."

[Veritas]

With GM's success this year and predicted success for next year, and beyond, I think we all realize that if a very good offer comes along we stand a good chance of losing him.

But perhaps his continued success here just might also be a major reason for staying.


One possibilitly of avoiding his taking another coaching positon perhaps lies more in his ability to recruit during the next two years. If he could somehow manage to sign one or two highly rated players (similar to a Carr and a Levingston) then perhaps the likelihood of his taking another job in the near future would be significantly reduced. He has already indicated he does not want to have to start all over again. And if he had a couple of really outstanding recruits arriving, he just might decide to stick around and harvest the fruits of his labor. Just a thought.

WSU doesn't have football and that expense. Therefore, if WSU is going to hang their hat on basketball, then it's time for ADES to ante up, and get HCGM more money. Pay the guy major conf money and keep him and the Shox have the potential to be in NCAA tournament year after year.
Or... lose him and hire a new coach every 4-5 years.

[ShockTalk]

Generally speaking, who the BCS school is and what the condition of it at the time a new (non-BCS) coach takes the job, might have an impact upon likely success.

As SHOXMVC illustrated above, a program may be a perennial second division school (Seton Hall, Providence, Iowa St) or a down-on-their success situation (Arkansas, Iowa, Cincy). Non-BCS coaches who take on these jobs many have a big, uphill battle. Or you can look at aTm. Not a big basketball named school, but one whose program is on the rise, had recent success, and in excellent shape with its roster and incoming recruits. If you're going to jump to the BCS anyway, and we all knew MT was going to, this was a no-brainer.

Now there are a "few" non-BCS coaches who probably have the name-power and/or ability to take on a not so rosey situation and succeed. However, I believe the smart non-BCS coach, who would like to make that next jump, will patiently wait for that right job, at the right institution, in the right situation. Particularly if he currently has a good, non-BCS gig now.

Nevertheless, it would be interesting to see if my theory is mostly true. (Sorry, not that interested to do the research. I'll just stay happy in my ignorant bliss.)

[ABC]

I think Marshall is making BCS type of money.

As I said, I do not believe Turgeon got a big raise to go to Texas A&M. And considering his contract at WSU was guarantted, his contract at A&M was not worth as much as the one he left.

[kcshocker11]

With expansion of the tourney it becomes a question of just money! Rem Turg went further in the Tourney with WSU than aTm so far!

[Ashockalypse]

Well SHOXMVC, 'you make sort of a good case until you blow your own foot off with "Although I'm not a great fan of Gene". If you are trying to make a case for a coach staying while foregoing a significant difference in fortune and, at least, some prestige, that coach should at least be able to count on the gratitude of the fans that think its a good idea for him to stay. What are the other intangibles you would like him to enjoy since you aren't throwing in your favor? Golden paperweights in his office. If there were ever a reason for me ever not to like Gene(which there has not been), what would override that completely is that Gene has stayed, remained loyal and dedicated himself to the program despite opportunities elsewhere. And even if I didn't like him, which isn't the case, I wouldn't be traipsen it all over Shockernet how I wasn't that big a fan (of really the only constant in the last 30 years who has kept us in the sports discussion). You might be the guy who goes to the game and claps with one hand...no one hears.

"Gregg, It's really in your best interest to stay. I don't like you all that well, but I'm sure someone around here must."

[shockerfan]

Looks like Tom Penders is resigning at Houston.

thedailycougar Penders to resign after six seasons as men’s basketball coach http://fb.me/ty9KF6mc

(not an article, just a facebook post from The Daily Cougar)

[shox1989]

The student paper is reporting the same thing. What surprises me is Pender's salary. According to this article his base pay is $250,000 and with incentives he can make up to $450,000.

I find it interesting since this is the guy that put down the Valley a few years ago.

http://thedailycougar.com/2010/03/21/penders-to-resign-after-six-seasons-as-men%E2%80%99s-basketball-coach/

[shockerfan]

whoops, sorry everyone. Meant to post the Tom Pender's thing under the "official coaching changes" topic. My bad.