Stating the Obvious - NCAA Seeding Edition

[DUShock]

well whatever. I get to still take off work Thursday and Friday just to watch basketball. It would be nice to watch the Shox. But we'll be there next year

:good:

Let the holiday season begin!

Go Shocks!!!!

[BCSCat]

They have drugs now that are very effective in the treatment of paranoia.

Just sayin..........

[pinstripers]

There is no question that if it were a blind draw, the BCS schools would not fare as well. Fair has nothing to do with it, though. More people will tune in to watch Illinois play in the first round, than will tune in to watch William & Mary. That's just the way it is. I do wish that they would all stop pretending that it is all done on merit.

[ISASO]

Are there drugs for the treatment of collusion?

[DUShock]

Statistics do not lie,

there's lies, damn lies, and statistics.

Rule #1 of economics and statistics, "Liars use figures and figures never lie". It all boils down to what's in the mix, the devil is in the details.

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

Missouri's resume is so much better than WSU's. If you can't see that, you are blinded by your rooting interests.


WSU - W __ Mizzou - W ________________ WSU - L __ Mizzou - L
17 ________ 6 _________________________ N15 ___ @1
72 ________ N27 _______________________ @17 ___ 1
N76 _______ 29 ________________________ N17 ___ @6
76 ________ 32 ________________________ @30 ___ @9
@88 _____ @72 _______________________ @76 ___ 13
88 ________ N74 _______________________ @105 __ N25
@90 ______ 106 _______________________ @115 __ @26
N90 ______ @120 _____________________ @178 __ @124
90 ________ 120 _______________________ @250 __ @126
105 _______ 123 _______________________________ N149
115 _______ 123
@165 _____ 138
@170 ____ @149
170 _______ 149
178 _______ 162
188 _______ 183
N210 ______ 238
227 _______ 270
250 _______ 281
268 _______ 316
270 _______ 336
281 _______ 338
307
344

[Good News]

Three economists go hunting in the woods. They see a bear, hunker down behind a log, and prepare to fire.

The first economist shoots. He curses and tells the others he missed a foot to the left.

The second economist shoots. He curses and tells the others he missed a foot to the right.

The third economist looks at each of them, stands up without firing a shot, and yells

"I GOT HIM!!!"

[HockeyShock]

Missouri's resume is so much better than WSU's. If you can't see that, you are blinded by your rooting interests.

"So much better?" The average RPI win is all of 10 points higher - a statistical wash given the level of parity in the NCAA, and the average RPI loss shouldn't count at all because they have the luxury of being destroyed by KU twice a year.

They were, at best, the fifth-best team in the Big 12 behind KU, KSU, Baylor, and Texas A&M, and they'd probably be sixth or seventh if they hadn't lucked out in the schedule and gotten to play OSU and Texas at home. So what you're saying is that a mediocre Big 12 team is better than a top-tier MVC team, by virtue of who is compelled to play them in Columbia?

By the way, check out those cupcakes at the bottom of their win column. We didn't do much better, but we did do better.

:clap: :wsu_posters: :yahoo: :clap:

[DUShock]

Three economists go hunting in the woods. They see a bear, hunker down behind a log, and prepare to fire.

The first economist shoots. He curses and tells the others he missed a foot to the left.

The second economist shoots. He curses and tells the others he missed a foot to the right.

The third economist looks at each of them, stands up without firing a shot, and yells

"I GOT HIM!!!"

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

Missouri's resume is so much better than WSU's. If you can't see that, you are blinded by your rooting interests.

"So much better?" The average RPI win is all of 10 points higher - a statistical wash given the level of parity in the NCAA, and the average RPI loss shouldn't count at all because they have the luxury of being destroyed by KU twice a year.

They were, at best, the fifth-best team in the Big 12 behind KU, KSU, Baylor, and Texas A&M, and they'd probably be sixth or seventh if they hadn't lucked out in the schedule and gotten to play OSU and Texas at home. So what you're saying is that a mediocre Big 12 team is better than a top-tier MVC team, by virtue of who is compelled to play them in Columbia?

By the way, check out those cupcakes at the bottom of their win column. We didn't do much better, but we did do better.

:clap: :wsu_posters: :yahoo: :clap:

If you want to say that our cupcakes were slightly better than their cupcakes, fine. What difference does it make? NCAA teams almost always win when facing anyone 200+. Missouri did. WSU... well, we had Evansville. Heck, our 2nd worse loss was probably worse than their worst.

If you want to throw out the 2 games vs KU, fine. Once you do, they now have fewer losses than us despite a tougher schedule.

The average RPI win of 10 higher is significant. That is a wash in any 1 game, but over a whole season, that is significant. It is like trading 2 wins over Creighton for 2 wins over Duke.

Yes, a mediocre Big 12 team was better than a top tier MVC team, this year. The Big 12 was the best conference out there... for a reason. I don't like this one bit, but the numbers seem to leave me with no other conclusion. Take an honest look one more time. Missouri has more quality wins. Missouri doesn't have nearly the negatives in the loss column that we do. They win, easily.

[wu_shizzle]

Ouch: Winthrop 44 at Arkansas-Pine Bluff 61