Marshall Post Game Comments

[Smooth007]

Call me crazy but I think a lot of the problems we see lay squarely on the shoulders of how these guys are coached. They are encouraged to take that stupid 3 point shot and it has been a problem for YEARS now.

That is just bad coaching and poor player discipline.

Stutz with a 3 late in that game? Are you kidding me?

So if Coach wants to do a full evaluation, he needs to start right there. (PS - We can't defend the drive because we don't practice the drive.)

Agreed, we shoot open jumpers first. If that is not available, maybe we consider penetration.

[ShockTalk]

Call me crazy but I think a lot of the problems we see lay squarely on the shoulders of how these guys are coached. They are encouraged to take that stupid 3 point shot and it has been a problem for YEARS now.

That is just bad coaching and poor player discipline.

Stutz with a 3 late in that game? Are you kidding me?

So if Coach wants to do a full evaluation, he needs to start right there. (PS - We can't defend the drive because we don't practice the drive.)

So it would appear. Good, excellent point.

[WSU4641]

Why did Marshall not call a time out either after the made free throws or when we were bringing the ball up? He could have set up a play where we might have scored or at least looked like we knew what we were doing.

[Rosewood]

Why did Marshall not call a time out either after the made free throws or when we were bringing the ball up? He could have set up a play where we might have scored or at least looked like we knew what we were doing.

Not what he does. Everyone should know that one by now.

(My measuring stick is that if I know it, everyone should know it. You see, I'm pretty stupid when it comes to basketball. So again, I figure that by the time I get through figuring something out, everyone else should have gotten there already.)

[MTXE]

(My measuring stick is that if I know it, everyone should know it. You see, I'm pretty stupid when it comes to basketball. So again, I figure that by the time I get through figuring something out, everyone else should have gotten there already.)

One of my alarms is set to ring on hints of pseudo-self-deprecation. It buzzed like crazy on this one. :)

[kochHead]

Team lacks leadership, basketball IQ, is lazy and doesn't have heart. The only time they starting throwing in all their effort was when realized that they might lose.

Bingo.

[ShockerFever]

I agree that Marshall's coaching flaws are starting to show more and more. The obvious "gung-ho" approach when it comes to 3-point shooting, the lack of calling timeouts, etc.

Hopefully, things get straightened out, because a few of those things have been happening since the onset.

[verbeak]

Call me crazy but I think a lot of the problems we see lay squarely on the shoulders of how these guys are coached. They are encouraged to take that stupid 3 point shot and it has been a problem for YEARS now.

That is just bad coaching and poor player discipline.

Stutz with a 3 late in that game? Are you kidding me?

So if Coach wants to do a full evaluation, he needs to start right there. (PS - We can't defend the drive because we don't practice the drive.)

It depends on the game situation and how much time is left. A big man that can shoot the 3 can be an asset. But Durley and Stutz both took horrible 3 pointers with the game on the line. Stutz took another one in the 2nd half that was just completely out of rhythm.

I don't think that was coaching as much as it was poor decisions by players.

Both Durley and Stutz can knock down 3 pointers, if it comes within the rhythm and flow of the offense I think they should shoot it.

[pogo]

"I really don't know what to think," WSU coach Gregg Marshall said. "They assure you that they're ready to play and they assure you that they respect the opponent, and then they go out and play like this."

Have you ever given instructions to someone who appears to be listening and gives you all the right feedback to indicate they're getting it -- but it turns out they're completely clueless and hiding behind a sea of desperate nods and smiles?

Yes and thank God it was only a training exercise because more than 3/4 of them would have died. I think I would have been in that 3/4 only because I would have been right in the middle of it all.

[vancedave56]

Sorry, I'm blind - don't see the coaching flaws as much as maybe too much trust in the current players. Possibly they are still in need of a little spoon feeding and are not ready to take responsibility themselves. He is trying to kick them out of the nest, but they are refusinig to fly. :wsu_posters:

[Ricardo del Rio]

I would be a horrible coach.

Just go to a packed in zone, which will deter dribble penetraton, reduce fouls and improve post defense.

Then take your chances that the opponent doesn't go crazy from 3.

I told you I would be a horrible coach.

Or in the alternative, go man to man in the first 15-20 seconds of a possession and then switch to zone. Or vice versa. Or stay straight zone.

[ShockerFever]

I would be a horrible coach.

Just go to a packed in zone, which will deter dribble penetraton, reduce fouls and improve post defense.

Then take your chances that the opponent doesn't go crazy from 3.

I told you I would be a horrible coach.

Or in the alternative, go man to man in the first 15-20 seconds of a possession and then switch to zone. Or vice versa. Or stay straight zone.

I think your coaching could have beaten Marshall last night. We switched to a zone and a press during our run to get back in the game. And then when we went back to man-to-man, we got schooled and fouled and Evansville systematically hit 10 straight free throws. Made total sense.. :roll:

[DPruett2333]

If I was a coach, i would switch defenses between man to man and the 2/3 zone, every couple of times down the court.

[ABC]

If I were coach, I would spend some serious time teaching how to sneak in some rabbit punches right to the 'boys, over and over and over.

It is doable.

[Rosewood]

Call me crazy but I think a lot of the problems we see lay squarely on the shoulders of how these guys are coached. They are encouraged to take that stupid 3 point shot and it has been a problem for YEARS now.

That is just bad coaching and poor player discipline.

Stutz with a 3 late in that game? Are you kidding me?

So if Coach wants to do a full evaluation, he needs to start right there. (PS - We can't defend the drive because we don't practice the drive.)

It depends on the game situation and how much time is left. A big man that can shoot the 3 can be an asset. But Durley and Stutz both took horrible 3 pointers with the game on the line. Stutz took another one in the 2nd half that was just completely out of rhythm.

I don't think that was coaching as much as it was poor decisions by players.

Both Durley and Stutz can knock down 3 pointers, if it comes within the rhythm and flow of the offense I think they should shoot it.

This late in the season, if the players are making poor decisions, that is poor coaching. Good coaching means the players aren't making decisions anymore. They are doing what they have been told.

I obviously don't mind JT's shot at the end when we were going for the tie as that was a desperate situation. His shot a bit earlier and Stutz's were both examples of bad coaching.

We know HCGM has given them a green light to shoot 3s when they are wide open. We know he likes the 3s. How often has he talked about how if so and so would have made a 3 it would have ripped the roof off the place / when so and so did make the 3 it ripped the roof off the place. Even in the post game on Ind State, a game where were cold from the 3, the players and HCGM talked about how they were still looking for the open shot.

This is all coaching.