How much longer on the disrespect?

[SpanglerFan316]

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I am amazed at the ability of "Russian" bots to mimic human posts.

[tw805]

If you follow NCAA Men's Basketball, you accept the fact that KU dominates the headlines and airwaves. ... There is no point in taking it personally...

There. Fixed that for ya, and clipped it for kicks.

I managed to catch the end of last night's game. At the end of overtime, the production crew flashed a graphic announcing that the win marked KU's twenty-first (21st!) 20+-win season.

Assuming (safely I hope) that the Shocks manage to grab the requisite number of games, depends on who's counting, in this year's final stretch, AND win 20+ games for the next 20 years, the year will be 2031. Think about that. One more time. 2031. It's pretty outrageous.

Re: Home Court - It looks like Allen Field house has witnessed 233 wins and 12 losses in the past 15 seasons of regular season play. It's MBB inhabitants are also on a 54-game win streak in the facility. As a facility, it also receives nearly universal critical accolades for embodying the spirit and tradition of NCAA Basketball. Come on, this is a place that's so lively and intimidating that Baylor Coach Scott Drew recently sparked controversy by taking his team off the court, at least in part, to avoid having his players exposed to the KU highlight video and player introductions. I'm not sure why any reporter would think this is an unresolved topic for discussion; regardless of who is included as the #2 team. But, as we all know, the drive for splashy headlines (particularly ones that cater to a geographic or ideologically bounded audience) can make reporters say fantastically stupid things. We suffer for their sins.

Remember kids. Hating is for haters. You'll be happier if you learn to appreciate what you have, than if you develop rabies. Chicks don't dig foamy mouths. It's true.

That said, "Octogon-of-Doom" is about as lame as lame gets. It's weak. It's forced. It brazenly evokes the MMA (which is about as un-collegiate as you can get). This is further demonstration that nick-names shouldn't be forced.

In other news, this is interesting....
http://www.kstatesports.com//pdf4/65...?DB_OEM_ID=400

Congratulations on completely missing the point. I would have conceded Kansas as the premier program in the state. They have earned it. The point of the original post was to point out that while discussing what purported to be an inclusive list of basketball teams in the state of Kansas, WSU was not even mentioned by the media outlets listed.

So if you're done basking in the glow of your trip down memory lane, maybe we can move on.

[ripemupshocks]

Re: How much longer on the disrespect?

The headline on the KC Star home page yesterday was "Who has the best home court advantage in Kansas?" Of course, they only had two choices and one was not WSU. Then tonight, ESPN runs the headline "Kansas is a two team hoops state these days."

So is this just how it's going to be since we're in the Valley? Is WSU just going to be invisible?

Hell man, the WheatShockers can't even get any respect in the hometown rag. The local fish rap has its nose buried so deep in chickenhawk and mildcat arse, you'd think there was no such thing as a WheatShocker. It's almost as if it would kill the home town rag to support the hometown team. And before you chickenhawk and mildcat lovers even open your pie holes, no, your alumni DO NOT out number ours here in the Wichita metropolitan area.
Damn right I'm mad. :-x

[tw805]

Re: How much longer on the disrespect?

The headline on the KC Star home page yesterday was "Who has the best home court advantage in Kansas?" Of course, they only had two choices and one was not WSU. Then tonight, ESPN runs the headline "Kansas is a two team hoops state these days."

So is this just how it's going to be since we're in the Valley? Is WSU just going to be invisible?

Hell man, the WheatShockers can't even get any respect in the hometown rag. The local fish rap has its nose buried so deep in chickenhawk and mildcat arse, you'd think there was no such thing as a WheatShocker. It's almost as if it would kill the home town rag to support the hometown team. And before you chickenhawk and mildcat lovers even open your pie holes, no, your alumni DO NOT out number ours here in the Wichita metropolitan area.
Damn right I'm mad. :-x

Agreed on all points. If it's any consolation, the hometown coverage is certainly better than that of UMKC.

[BCSCat]

I was and wasn't surprised by the lack of WSU mention in the Star's article. After living here in the Wichita area since '85 I know that WSU has a very good home atmosphere but the problem is that outside of this area (with the exception of a few WSU Alums) very few people in the state and Big XII pay much attention to WSU athletics. There just is no identity for WSU throughout the state. Has WSU ever tried to extend the radio broadcasts beyond the one station in Wichita? That would help I would think though more than anything, IMHO, it's the fact that KU/KSU were charter members of the Big6/7/8/12 and continue to be today. Belonging to a major conference just brings more attention. IMHO WSU should have jumped on that back in the '30s when the Big 6 was formed or joined sometime before football had the tragedy in 1970.

Thats said, if Marshall does well and WSU has a string of good NCAA runs notice will be taken.

[ShockerFever]

And KSU owns rural Kansas. The farmers tending to their crops get to listen to their KSU sports in their tractors.

The "Octagon of Doom" is hilarious.

[Veritas]

I was and wasn't surprised by the lack of WSU mention in the Star's article. After living here in the Wichita area since '85 I know that WSU has a very good home atmosphere but the problem is that outside of this area (with the exception of a few WSU Alums) very few people in the state and Big XII pay much attention to WSU athletics. There just is no identity for WSU throughout the state. Has WSU ever tried to extend the radio broadcasts beyond the one station in Wichita? That would help I would think though more than anything, IMHO, it's the fact that KU/KSU were charter members of the Big6/7/8/12 and continue to be today. Belonging to a major conference just brings more attention. IMHO WSU should have jumped on that back in the '30s when the Big 6 was formed or joined sometime before football had the tragedy in 1970.

Thats said, if Marshall does well and WSU has a string of good NCAA runs notice will be taken.

BCSCat, I agree partially with what you say, but not much.
Agree: "Belonging to a major conference just brings more attention." and "Thats said, if Marshall does well and WSU has a string of good NCAA runs notice will be taken."

Disagree: Everything else.

Look, I know you're hurting and the sting and hangover from the continued dominance of KU must be drepressing for you. Granted, EMAW Nation has grabbed a little tighter to the coat-tails of the Big XII and continue to try to surf the swell of basketball tradition at KU. The fact remains is that KSU is (est) 1-26 against KU which my friend is terrible.

[ShockerFever]

Given the home and home factor, I would say WSU could easily do better than 1-26.

[KC Shox]

The answer to your question is simple. WSU doesn't win enough. One NCAA tourney birth in the past 21 years will do that. Just win baby and eventually no one can ignore us.

[BCSCat]

ShockerFever - your distaste for farmers is duly noted. Laughable for a fan of a team with an agricultural mascot. I'm from KC and my degrees are in Psychology and Business but I appreciate farmers and their hard work every time I eat. Maybe you don't eat. Might be better if you never ate - ever again. KCShox good point - WSU and KSU have not been anywhere near where KU has been over the last 20 years. It's damn nice to see that the gap may be starting to close but much work remains to be done.

I had a great time at GameDay and the game yesterday. Not happy about the outcome but I got to do 2 things WSU fans rarely if ever get to do. Play KU (and damn near win) and have GameDay visit my Alma Mater's campus.

Did I mention that only 15 schools have ever had both football and basketball ESPN game day visit? Did I mention that Kansas State is one of those schools?

I'll leave with this from BuyLowSellHiCat from Gopowercat - sums up Kansas State very well. You can make fun of the "rural" setting from your oh-so-sophisticated Wichita (chuckle) but:

"KSU doesn't have the biggest school, the biggest population base to draw from, the biggest endowment fund, the biggest budget, or the most talent. No school, no fanbase, and no team plays/cheers/works/roots harder than the KSU players, coaches, and fans. That is something to be proud of."

[Ashockalypse]

Hey but your cheerleaders have the biggest __________ though. That's somethin!

[BCSCat]

Does one fill in the blank with their favorite part of the female anatomy?

And I get that you were going for asses.

Which brings to mind - as I was watching our win at Baylor Tuesday I was struck by the the fact that none of the Baylor cheerleaders seem to have boobs. Unfortunate.

[cincyshocker]

Nobody cares about Ag-State on this board. Please do us all a favor and never post again. Thanks.

[im4wsu]

ShockerFever - your distaste for farmers is duly noted. Laughable for a fan of a team with an agricultural mascot. I'm from KC and my degrees are in Psychology and Business but I appreciate farmers and their hard work every time I eat. Maybe you don't eat. Might be better if you never ate - ever again. KCShox good point - WSU and KSU have not been anywhere near where KU has been over the last 20 years. It's damn nice to see that the gap may be starting to close but much work remains to be done.

I had a great time at GameDay and the game yesterday. Not happy about the outcome but I got to do 2 things WSU fans rarely if ever get to do. Play KU (and damn near win) and have GameDay visit my Alma Mater's campus.

Did I mention that only 15 schools have ever had both football and basketball ESPN game day visit? Did I mention that Kansas State is one of those schools?

I'll leave with this from BuyLowSellHiCat from Gopowercat - sums up Kansas State very well. You can make fun of the "rural" setting from your oh-so-sophisticated Wichita (chuckle) but:

"KSU doesn't have the biggest school, the biggest population base to draw from, the biggest endowment fund, the biggest budget, or the most talent. No school, no fanbase, and no team plays/cheers/works/roots harder than the KSU players, coaches, and fans. That is something to be proud of."

Glad you had a good time. Too bad you didn't choose to share it whith anyone that cared.

I'm proud of my school, my family and my grandkids, too, but I don't go on a skittie board and make people read that drivel.

[BCSCat]

Would never have happened if your buddy ShockerFever had not chosen to post his usual drivel dissing hard working farmers. I originally was trying to give an outsiders view on a discussion about why there is a perceived ignorance of WSU nationally and state wide.

Once again the myth of friendly Wichitans is shattered.