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  • #91
    Originally posted by wsushox1
    Originally posted by ShockerFever
    Originally posted by shockerfan
    I haven't read the whole thread so I'm sure it's been mentioned. PHENOMINAL defense by Murry tonight. Absolutely outstanding. That is all. :)
    Great defense but his 4 TO's left a lot to be desired..
    Seriously. I will take 4 TO's over Osiris going off for 25 on us.
    True. Doesn't make it any less frustrating to watch though.

    I would venture a guess and say everyone of the 4 TO's was converted into points.. 10-12 at least.
    Deuces Valley.
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    • #92
      Re: Clevin

      Originally posted by proshox
      Clevin is the best basketball player at WSU in a very long time. He is absolutely in charge and he has a great understanding of when the team needs him to score.

      Overall - this was a great bounce back game and everyone appeared ready to take care of business
      I have long said that CH is the best PG at WSU since Cal Bruton. Still true, but I am beginning to think that he may be better. No stats to back that up, but I don't believe that any PG since Cal or some from the teams in the early 60s have had more impact.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Rosewood
        Originally posted by Rosewood
        screen cap of ref slapping himself in the face please

        and make it subgod's avatar
        :good:
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        • #94
          Originally posted by ShockerFever
          Originally posted by wsushox1
          Originally posted by ShockerFever
          Originally posted by shockerfan
          I haven't read the whole thread so I'm sure it's been mentioned. PHENOMINAL defense by Murry tonight. Absolutely outstanding. That is all. :)
          Great defense but his 4 TO's left a lot to be desired..
          Seriously. I will take 4 TO's over Osiris going off for 25 on us.
          True. Doesn't make it any less frustrating to watch though.

          I would venture a guess and say everyone of the 4 TO's was converted into points.. 10-12 at least.
          Ahh. I didn't have FSN so I wasn't able to watch the game so I didn't know his turnovers resulted in points.
          The mountains are calling, and I must go.

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          • #95
            Overall I thought it was a nice effort--a good way to rebound from the Drake disaster. Toure's defense on OE was great. Clevin did what seniors often do--step up when his team needed him to.

            Sad to see the streak come to an end, but all good things, and at least his name will be firmly in the Shocker record books for many years to come. He's one of those guys that you really wish you could have for 4 years--not just 2. We've got 4 more home games and we need to enjoy watching him because it won't be long before he's gone.

            Now, on the 'negative' side... there was way too much dribble driving allowed in the second half. Those were only temporary lapses, but they were still frustrating. We're going to have to play better 2nd half D to knock off SIU. I think our days of sleeping through games is done. We'll still have moments of problems, but I don't see us having a full game like the Drake game again.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by shockar25
              Overall I thought it was a nice effort--a good way to rebound from the Drake disaster. Toure's defense on OE was great. Clevin did what seniors often do--step up when his team needed him to.

              Sad to see the streak come to an end, but all good things, and at least his name will be firmly in the Shocker record books for many years to come. He's one of those guys that you really wish you could have for 4 years--not just 2. We've got 4 more home games and we need to enjoy watching him because it won't be long before he's gone.

              Now, on the 'negative' side... there was way too much dribble driving allowed in the second half. Those were only temporary lapses, but they were still frustrating. We're going to have to play better 2nd half D to knock off SIU. I think our days of sleeping through games is done. We'll still have moments of problems, but I don't see us having a full game like the Drake game again.
              I completely agree on the dribble drive defense issues this team has shown all season. Its the cryptonite to our superman and will bring this team down in the end. If the redbirds aren't able to drive the ball as much in the second half we win by close to 20. We did better in spots and Durley had a great block on one late but we can not rely on Valley Refs to keep our bigs out of foul trouble if we continue to let guards drive to the bucket like this.

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              • #97
                I would venture a guess and say everyone of the 4 TO's was converted into points.. 10-12 at least.
                How do you score more than 12 points off 4 turnovers? Who knows though, right? I never was good at math.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by pie n eye
                  I would venture a guess and say everyone of the 4 TO's was converted into points.. 10-12 at least.
                  How do you score more than 12 points off 4 turnovers? Who knows though, right? I never was good at math.
                  4 3-pointers?

                  So maybe I over-guestimated a tad, but there were some definite points that went the other direction.
                  Deuces Valley.
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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by ShockBand
                    Had to miss tonight's game due to a previous appointment involving seared seabass and medium rare sirloin...

                    Just caught this pic on kansas.com - Graham can fly now?

                    Now thats MTXE! :posterwu: 8)
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                    • Originally posted by kcshocker11
                      Originally posted by ShockBand
                      Had to miss tonight's game due to a previous appointment involving seared seabass and medium rare sirloin...

                      Just caught this pic on kansas.com - Graham can fly now?

                      Now thats MTXE! :posterwu: 8)
                      He's the hardest player on the court game in and game out.

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                      • Originally posted by ShoxCO94
                        Originally posted by kcshocker11
                        Originally posted by ShockBand
                        Had to miss tonight's game due to a previous appointment involving seared seabass and medium rare sirloin...

                        Just caught this pic on kansas.com - Graham can fly now?

                        Now thats MTXE! :posterwu: 8)
                        He's the hardest player on the court game in and game out.
                        :yes:
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                        • Stutz looked pretty good out there the little time he played. He was more active on the perimeter with his help defense--almost got a couple steals. As always, he has to draw blood to get a foul called on him.

                          Durley did not look very good with the ball down in the post. His post moves were off last night. I don't know if that is more because of Odiakosa's defense or if he just had a bad game. His 3's were great, though.

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                          • Originally posted by ShockerGorilla
                            Stutz looked pretty good out there the little time he played. He was more active on the perimeter with his help defense--almost got a couple steals. As always, he has to draw blood to get a foul called on him.

                            Durley did not look very good with the ball down in the post. His post moves were off last night. I don't know if that is more because of Odiakosa's defense or if he just had a bad game. His 3's were great, though.
                            Completely agree on Stutz. He was great on the perimeter and he also held Odiakosa in check on the low block. His stat line for this game won't be that impressive, but he played very well.
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                            • Originally posted by SubGod22
                              Originally posted by ShoxCO94
                              Originally posted by kcshocker11
                              Originally posted by ShockBand
                              Had to miss tonight's game due to a previous appointment involving seared seabass and medium rare sirloin...

                              Just caught this pic on kansas.com - Graham can fly now?

                              Now thats MTXE! :posterwu: 8)
                              He's the hardest player on the court game in and game out.
                              :yes:
                              He is the exact reason you can not judge a players game performance based on reading a box score.
                              If you don't admire or appreciate his effort and desire, you need to find another form of entertainment to watch. 8)
                              Above all, make the right call.

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                              • Originally posted by The Mad Hatter
                                Originally posted by ShockerGorilla
                                Stutz looked pretty good out there the little time he played. He was more active on the perimeter with his help defense--almost got a couple steals. As always, he has to draw blood to get a foul called on him.

                                Durley did not look very good with the ball down in the post. His post moves were off last night. I don't know if that is more because of Odiakosa's defense or if he just had a bad game. His 3's were great, though.
                                Completely agree on Stutz. He was great on the perimeter and he also held Odiakosa in check on the low block. His stat line for this game won't be that impressive, but he played very well.
                                I was very impressed by Stutz effort last night. He was causing some problems on the perimeter by being aggressive and smart and was fighting in the paint. He may not win every battle but he's battling. He's got a lot of heart.
                                Infinity Art Glass - Fantastic local artist and Shocker fan
                                RIP Guy Always A Shocker
                                Carpenter Place - A blessing to many young girls/women
                                ICT S.O.S - Great local cause fighting against human trafficking
                                Wartick Insurance Agency - Saved me money with more coverage.
                                Save Shocker Sports - A rallying cry

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