Martin's "flick"

[Veritas]

Old School indeed.

http://wibw.videogenesis.net/watch?v=7280&ref=quadiframe

[Ricardo del Rio]

Re: Martin's "flick"

Old School indeed.


http://wibw.videogenesis.net/watch?v...ref=quadiframe

I will probably be shouted down, but I think some football players have become wussies.

Hell, in a game, they get their clock clean in play after play. A coach pokes one in the chest with a finger and the player starts whining to his Momma. Go figger.

Now the media has created a frenzy and will have the eye in sky on every head coach in hopes of catching a coach's slightest touch on a player.

The trial lawyers are in bliss.

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

I think more than a few, I think it's more like most, and not only that, their mommy and daddy are there holding their hand, talking to professors, tucking them in, and doing everything for them so they can have a "better" life than the one most of them worked hard to EARN!

If I had a dollar for every coach from youth to College that got in my face, grabbed my facemask, poked me in my chest, or smacked me on the shoulder when I wasn't paying attention, I'd have a nice Villa in France. Of course, while not opposed to how you play the game, I preferred walking off the field having won the game, not with my mommy and daddy patting me on the back and giving me a ribbon for "everyone is a winner"

[ShockerPrez]

It looked more like a 'Hey are you payin' attention?' The player didn't look very interested in what Martin was sayin before it happened. It looked more like a 'get into the game, dude!!' type of nudge.

Not condoning it, but I don't think it was that big a deal, but hey Martin is an intense dude to say the least.

[Veritas]

Martin apologized for it as well prior to anyone asking him about it.
It's old school, and I don't have a problem with a BK or Martin doing it. However, I wouldn't want HCGM doing it. I think there are other ways to get someone's attention without "flicking" them.
As I mentioned before. I'd rather have a coach that inspires rather than motivates.
Martin seems like he's pretty intense and it must get exhausting playing for the guy. From here on out, he's going to have to keep his hands in his pockets for timeouts during close games.

[Aargh]

I recall some drill sergeants who both inspired and motivated those they were in charge of. They didn't do it by being "nice". There was no time for "nice" and people "grew up" really quickly. P'Allen would really benefit from a couple of drill sergeants I've known.

[kcshocker11]

Didnt see much to worry about, but some recruits mother might not like it!

[mattdalt]

Give Martin credit, he knows he made a mistake, he apologized immediatley, and didn't try to brush it off as insignificant.

I don't know Martin, but that clip earns him some respect.

[DUShock]

I recall some drill sergeants who both inspired and motivated those they were in charge of. They didn't do it by being "nice". There was no time for "nice" and people "grew up" really quickly. P'Allen would really benefit from a couple of drill sergeants I've known.

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[pogo]

It looked more like a 'Hey are you payin' attention?' The player didn't look very interested in what Martin was sayin before it happened. It looked more like a 'get into the game, dude!!' type of nudge.

Not condoning it, but I don't think it was that big a deal, but hey Martin is an intense dude to say the least.

Thats what it looked like to me.

[KC Shox]

Big freakin' deal. The player was not paying attention and spacing off at the Mizzou cheerleaders.

That's what is wrong with this country, we got too many sensitive people around. That jab looked liked it tickled.

[SpanglerFan316]

I think more than a few, I think it's more like most, and not only that, their mommy and daddy are there holding their hand, talking to professors, tucking them in, and doing everything for them so they can have a "better" life than the one most of them worked hard to EARN!

If I had a dollar for every coach from youth to College that got in my face, grabbed my facemask, poked me in my chest, or smacked me on the shoulder when I wasn't paying attention, I'd have a nice Villa in France. Of course, while not opposed to how you play the game, I preferred walking off the field having won the game, not with my mommy and daddy patting me on the back and giving me a ribbon for "everyone is a winner"

My reply to this post is not politically correct, for which I apologize. I can't believe you were in complete control when you posted. Mike Leach put a player's long term health at risk and refused to moderate his future actions; if anyone should consider concussions to be serious, it is WSU fans. Frank Martin did the right thing after the game and I don't think there will be any serious repercussions; I say this as a person who is not a fan of Martin. I have no idea why you posted; it was silly.

1. "their mommy and daddy are there holding their hand"
I doubt this. When you were in college, did you want your parents anywhere nearby?

2. "their mommy and daddy are ... talking to professors"
I'm pretty sure there is an old (1970s) federal law which makes it illegal for professors to reveal any information about students.

3. "their mommy and daddy are ... tucking them in"
I have to question your intelligence.

[SpanglerFan316]

I recall some drill sergeants who both inspired and motivated those they were in charge of. They didn't do it by being "nice". There was no time for "nice" and people "grew up" really quickly. P'Allen would really benefit from a couple of drill sergeants I've known.

Give me a time period. DIs & "drill sergeants" in the late 1940s and the early 1980s were completely different. Give a time period because I suspect your "drill sergeants" would amount to nothing compared to those before Korea.

[ShockTalk]

First, I haven't cared much for Martin, but I also give him credit for for two things: 1) His immediate statement (damage control) and 2) The hard "five" slap right after the flick - I think that action said a lot.

This problem just didn't rear its head. Parents didn't just start caring (sometimes meddling) about their kids. What has changed is the MONEY. Schools have now found a way to get out of those high-paying, long term contracts they feel they have to give to stay competitive. Coaches, this is nothing more than an unwelcomed by-product of "show me the money". Live with it.

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

I think more than a few, I think it's more like most, and not only that, their mommy and daddy are there holding their hand, talking to professors, tucking them in, and doing everything for them so they can have a "better" life than the one most of them worked hard to EARN!

If I had a dollar for every coach from youth to College that got in my face, grabbed my facemask, poked me in my chest, or smacked me on the shoulder when I wasn't paying attention, I'd have a nice Villa in France. Of course, while not opposed to how you play the game, I preferred walking off the field having won the game, not with my mommy and daddy patting me on the back and giving me a ribbon for "everyone is a winner"

My reply to this post is not politically correct, for which I apologize. I can't believe you were in complete control when you posted. Mike Leach put a player's long term health at risk and refused to moderate his future actions; if anyone should consider concussions to be serious, it is WSU fans. Frank Martin did the right thing after the game and I don't think there will be any serious repercussions; I say this as a person who is not a fan of Martin. I have no idea why you posted; it was silly.

1. "their mommy and daddy are there holding their hand"
I doubt this. When you were in college, did you want your parents anywhere nearby?

2. "their mommy and daddy are ... talking to professors"
I'm pretty sure there is an old (1970s) federal law which makes it illegal for professors to reveal any information about students.

3. "their mommy and daddy are ... tucking them in"
I have to question your intelligence.

First, I have had 5 concussions. I know first hand the effects, and the things you can and cannot do while still suffering the immediate effects of them, as well as what triggers some long term effects. The major one is light, especially when active. Being in a dimly lit room riding a bike is NOT going to have an effect on his long term health. Being in the workout room with all the flourescent bulbs literally causing you to feel like you are seeing things while a strobe light is on will.

on your other points:

1. No, I didn't, and no they werent.

2. If you have talked to anyone spending a great amount of time around college athletics lately, the parents are a big deal dealing with coaches, and yes, CALLING PROFESSORS to dispute grades and other issues (like failing due to not going to class). They generally do not get any info from the professor and tend to go right up the chain.

3. It was simply implying that many kids today do not have the ability to think or do for themselves, and talk to mommy and daddy everyday so they can feel like they are special and entitled. If you think I seriously meant mommy and daddy going to campus to literally tuck them in, I must question your intelligence.