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    Just a quick comparison over the last four games:

    Hannah 102 min 20 assists 8 turnovers
    Williams 59 min 4 assists 7 turnovers
    Manigault 32 min 9 assists 0 turnovers
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  • #2
    That's cute. But you left out a fairly important statistic which creates a clear separation between the three.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by MTXE
      That's cute. But you left out a fairly important statistic which creates a clear separation between the three.
      Cute? It looks like plain white text on a dark gray background to me.

      Oh wait, I guess the yellow "trillion" in his sig is kinda cute.

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      • #4
        What is implied, is cute. :)

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        • #5
          Manigault's TO's are the most significant item in there. In the last 4 games, Manigault has not always been playing PG, so the comparison doesn't work quite as well as it could.

          Missing - based on 40 min/game to keep everything even.

          Hannah - 50% FG - 14.08 points, 1.92 fouls per 40 minutes
          Williams - 36% FG - 11.39 points, 6.25 fouls per 40 minutes
          Manigault - 33% FG - 7.38 points, 4.39 fouls per 40 minutes

          So far Manigault is a quicker version of Adam Liberty. Williams needs work on both ends of the court. There's a distinct drop off in the flow of the offense when Hannah rests.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Aargh
            So far Manigault is a quicker version of Adam Liberty. Williams needs work on both ends of the court. There's a distinct drop off in the flow of the offense when Hannah rests.
            That is the most significant difference between the three. What im4wsu was trying to point out is that KM is getting the ball where it needs to be without committing turn overs. That was the biggest concern for him comming in to WSU, and thus far, there has been significant improvement in that part of his game. The only other issue anyone saw with Manigault was that he doesn't shoot very well. That is still a work in progress. Hannah is THE MAN this year, but you can definately see that DW and KM have skills and I expect them both to have successful careers at WSU.
            Livin the dream

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            • #7
              Manigault looks like he could get more minutes. He does throw too many lazy passes, and he cannot score in the halfcourt, but he should end up being a monster on defense, and if he's the future at the position.........

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              • #8
                One thing about KJ is that he goes to the glass like a madman. Dude pounds the glass, gets HIGH and puts a death grip on the rock.

                He is a FANTASTIC rebounder and before it's all done, he is going to POSTERIZE a significant percentage of the Valley with thunderous follow dunks.

                He may never be a great shooter (as Demetric will almost certainly be) but he can get to the cup and score over most defenders anywhere near his size.

                FYI

                My "Make Ricky Del Rio Smile" stat of the day:

                We are shooting .736 from the FT line, currently good for 2nd all time.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by WuDrWu
                  We are shooting .736 from the FT line, currently good for 2nd all time.
                  That should put us in the top 50 in team percentage. New free throw stats haven't been updated but .736 would put us at #59.
                  #121 in this iteration.

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                  • #10

                    FYI

                    My "Make Ricky Del Rio Smile" stat of the day:

                    We are shooting .736 from the FT line, currently good for 2nd all time.
                    Since Cleveland State, Garrett is 8-8.

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                    • #11
                      New stats from NCAA are updated:

                      Top 60 listed below: check out the stats for a complete list


                      scoring defense 5th
                      scoring margin 13th
                      free throw % 59th
                      rebound margin 23rd
                      assist per game 28th
                      a/to ratio 30th
                      steals per game 28th
                      to margin 18th

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by MTXE
                        What is implied, is cute. :)
                        What, that you're sCUm?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by RussDaBus
                          New stats from NCAA are updated:

                          Top 60 listed below: check out the stats for a complete list


                          scoring defense 5th
                          scoring margin 13th
                          free throw % 59th
                          rebound margin 23rd
                          assist per game 28th
                          a/to ratio 30th
                          steals per game 28th
                          to margin 18th

                          http://web1.ncaa.org/stats/StatsSrv/ranksummary
                          You have to click through to get to the numbers.

                          Even considering the competition those numbers are nice.

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                          • #14
                            The majority of KM's minutes have been in less crucial points of the game. If he was getting Williams' time-slot he would be struggling. I'm sure that is why coach doesn't give him Williams' minutes.

                            I'm glad we have the luxury of letting KM get his feet under him at his own pace. I fear though that KM will lose confidence if he isn't given ample opportunity to prove himself on the court. Extreme depth brings with it an extreme risk for unhappiness and off-season transferring. I for one do not want to lose KM's long arms.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by MTXE
                              The majority of KM's minutes have been in less crucial points of the game. If he was getting Williams' time-slot he would be struggling. I'm sure that is why coach doesn't give him Williams' minutes.

                              I'm glad we have the luxury of letting KM get his feet under him at his own pace. I fear though that KM will lose confidence if he isn't given ample opportunity to prove himself on the court. Extreme depth brings with it an extreme risk for unhappiness and off-season transferring. I for one do not want to lose KM's long arms.
                              I also want KM to be brought along at the right pace. I believe he will give Shocker Nation many thrills during his career. He just needs some work. I'm convinced that he'll be playing a strong 30 minutes a game before he is finished.

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