please explain

[Aargh]

How about all of the non-BCS schools getting together and withdraw from the NCAA and create a new umbrella association.

The reason the BCS schools own the NCAA is because they threaten to do that exact thing. They will form their own association if the NCAA doesn't cave in to them.

Letting that happen is a disaster to the NCAA, but what does it do to the other schools? It's not like WSU is getting a share of the Fiesta Bowl or anything but chump-change from te BCS-dominated basketball tournament. The BCS schools are taking the lion's share of the money and making sure their share keeps getting bigger.

If there were a separate organization for non-BCS, it would be quickly relegated to the status of today's Div 2. The NCAA and the BCS have A LOT of money and they could bury the new organization, work deals with EVERY TV distribution network. It could be brutal.

[fastbow]

I have a better idea.

How about all of the non-BCS schools getting together and withdraw from the NCAA and create a new umbrella association.

If the non-BCS schools even started rattling sabers with the threat of withdrawal, it would surely get the Monsters attention.

Could anything be better than a new association?

You know I was thinking the exact same thing except how about a boycott by all non bcs alumni and fans. Fewer people watching bcs participant events, lower tv viewer ratings, lower revenues from advertising due to lower ratings and lower fees for the time slots. This would be hitting the ncaa where it really hurts.

The problem with that idea is that there are well enough mouth-breathing drove-by-the-college-once fans of the BCS schools to keep the coffers lined indefinitely. In evidence: Every yahoo with an OU sticker on their truck in this town.

Boy, that sounded really bitter. ;-)

:clap: :wsu_posters: :yahoo: :clap:

Yep. It's a deep-running affliction. I know for a fact there's at least one "fan" on here who's one of those OU mouthbreathers...

Would bet anything OU still comes first to him, too.

[Ricardo del Rio]

All of you have made good points.

Some random thoughts, which may have zero value:

The NCAA would still have superior market power, but I am not sure it will be any greater than it is now.

The new Association will have the numbers, meaning numbers of members. With greater numbers, then greater pressure can be brought through the congress and against the NCAA.

What happens, if the Association pays athletes on some basis? Will the Association attract better athletes? Would a bidding war ensue?

Will the NCAA be subject to greater scrutiny by the anti-trust regulators?

America loves the underdog.

[Steeleshocker]

Just so you know not all BCS fans are complete jerks...

My parents are OU alums (living in Wichita) that are season ticket holders and big fans of WSU. My dad has actually said if WSU ever plays OU, he wants WSU to win. It will mean more for the WSU program.

Even if it was the national title game.

[ShockRef]

All of you have made good points.

Some random thoughts, which may have zero value:

The NCAA would still have superior market power, but I am not sure it will be any greater than it is now.

The new Association will have the numbers, meaning numbers of members. With greater numbers, then greater pressure can be brought through the congress and against the NCAA.

What happens, if the Association pays athletes on some basis? Will the Association attract better athletes? Would a bidding war ensue?

Will the NCAA be subject to greater scrutiny by the anti-trust regulators?

America loves the underdog.

I think America loves Ricky del Rio. 8)

[RoyalShock]

RDR makes an interesting point. A new organization (let's call it the ACAA) could have a slightly different set of rules, like increasing the allowed student stipend and some other things that wouldn't drastically alter the "amateurness" of it's members but make playing for a member school more attractive to prospective athletes. The only problem would be whether the member schools could afford to take advantage.

It might even become more attractive for one of the BCS conferences to make the jump. I could see the Pac-10 coming along since every other school in that half of the country would be in the ACAA.

Though I suspect that getting all the non-BCS conferences on board would be much more difficult than it sounds. They might see themselves getting a bigger piece of the NCAA pie once a number of the other conferences left.

[Awesome Sauce Malone]

The only problem with the new association compensating their athletes is that the big money schools in the old association will still be able to pay them more.

[ShockTalk]

There are also other conferences that will probably go with the BCS-NCAA. Atlantic-10, C-USA, and the MWC already don't like being lump in with other mid-majors and this may be their chance to move up.

Or:

The other problem I see, is that there is a big difference between the big mid-majors and the rest of the lower D1 conferences. May not the same thing happen within this new group that has already happen now with the BSC.

[ShockTalk]

Also, any new twist the the "ACAA", (as Royal puts it), would do to give themselves a better competitive advantage to attract better athletes, the NCAA could also change to do if they thought not doing it could hurt them.