Post Game Red Bird v. Shockers

[rjl]

The official signaled that a WSU player had knocked the ball loose and thus there was no possession by the ISU player until after the perceived travel. From my point of view, it looked like a clear travel and/or carry.

Agree. It happened right in front of me, and it appeared as if the ISU player either intercepted or outright stole the ball, then juggled it about 15 feet across mid-court.

Oh well.

[shocklight]

Did anyone else even see a foul, let alone an intentional one at the end of the 1st half?

I was watching the ball as it bounced toward half court. The replay looked like the ISU player just tripped over Murry, who had fallen down after the block.

Can anyone explain what happened?

The replay clearly showed the ISU player grabbing TM's jersey as he was falling down. My son and I didn't think it was intentional, until we watched the replay on the video board. It was a good call.

[WuDrWu]

I'm not sure it was a "good call" but he did grab Toure's jersey to keep him from getting the ball.


If they called every shirt grab, every D1 player would foul out.

[Shocker85]

I'm not sure it was a "good call" but he did grab Toure's jersey to keep him from getting the ball.

If they called every shirt grab, every D1 player would foul out.

The ISU player grabbed the jersey and pulled to gain an advantage, and in that case you have to call a foul, but hardly worthy of an intentional foul call, IMO. Seems like "intentional" usually means "flagrant", but these refs thought otherwise and made the call.

Hey, we'll take a favorable whistle for a change!

--'85.

[Shox21]

For anyone who is interested, I noticed that Channel 22 is rebroadcasting the game tonight at 7:00 p.m.

[SpanglerFan316]

Also, on that ISU inbounds play where it appeared the inbounder just walked the ball in, is it possible that he actually passed it to Eldridge, who just quickly tipped it back to him once inbounds and the ref missed it?

From my angle Eldridge was between me and the ball so I couldn't tell.

Look at http://www.redbirdfan.com/msgforum/v...hp?f=2&t=11107.

[vbird53]

The game last night had a good flow. The officiating was not terribly noticeable (a great thing), they let the kids play.

I thought the over and back call on the inbounds play (ISU) was hilarious.

[ShockerInKC]

I'm not sure it was a "good call" but he did grab Toure's jersey to keep him from getting the ball.


If they called every shirt grab, every D1 player would foul out.

It was intentional (technical foul) because Toure had a clear path to the basket. I watched and rewatched it and as the other player fell he reached out and grabbed Toure's arm and jersey and pulled.

In regards to Ellis' shots, what was the scouting report on him? Don't cover him past 5 ft?

Since Hatch/Toure/Hawkins started driving the lane in the CU game; hasn't this completely turned around the way our offense looks?

Best thing about the Ill St. game? In my opinion, we won for the first time when Hannah had a bad night. (Not that 10 assists are bad, just by what usual Hannah standards are).

[ShoxCO94]

I'm not sure it was a "good call" but he did grab Toure's jersey to keep him from getting the ball.


If they called every shirt grab, every D1 player would foul out.

It was intentional (technical foul) because Toure had a clear path to the basket. I watched and rewatched it and as the other player fell he reached out and grabbed Toure's arm and jersey and pulled.

In regards to Ellis' shots, what was the scouting report on him? Don't cover him past 5 ft?

Since Hatch/Toure/Hawkins started driving the lane in the CU game; hasn't this completely turned around the way our offense looks?

Best thing about the Ill St. game? In my opinion, we won for the first time when Hannah had a bad night. (Not that 10 assists are bad, just by what usual Hannah standards are).

I agree that they called the foul because Toure would have been able to go on a break by himself. He grabbed a ton of jersey on that one.

[SubGod22]

I agreed with the no traveling call. It's hard to travel when you never have possession.

[ShockerFever]

I agreed with the no traveling call. It's hard to travel when you never have possession.

If it wasn't a travel, then it was a carry. It definitely was something illegal though. Otherwise, I'd suggest WSU to recruit some jugglers and we can bring the ball up that way.

[Ricardo del Rio]

I agreed with the no traveling call. It's hard to travel when you never have possession.

If it wasn't a travel, then it was a carry. It definitely was something illegal though. Otherwise, I'd suggest WSU to recruit some jugglers and we can bring the ball up that way.

Suppose player A stands on the shoulders of teammate B. Then teammate B moves to the edge of the lane and near the basket. The combined height of the two players is appoximately 13'.

Further suppose another teammate C lobs a pass to player A and he slams down a jam.

Has there been an infraction of the rules?

Just wondering.

I have other ideas in mind.

[pinstripers]

Isn't that what they usta call an "air dribble"?

[im4wsu]

Isn't that what they usta call an "air dribble"?

Yes, it is. It at one time was in the rulebook. Now with the rule about having your hand not under the ball, I would think air dribble would be impossible. It seems to me they often call traveling on guys bfore they have but are trying to obtain possession. That is what this looked like from where I sit.

[Rosewood]

I agreed with the no traveling call. It's hard to travel when you never have possession.

That doesn't make sense because you could just bobble the ball in the air and run down the court.