OFFENSE

[TDSHOX]

What offense are we running?

[ShockerFever]

We're running an offense?

[xazshox]

offense

Nobody mentioned in this thread or the ingame thread this fact: this is a very young team and they just finished finals week. The frosh all played one of their worst games of the year if not the worst game. It's to be expected. They are probably tired & a bit stressed out. They don't have any school now for 3-4 weeks so will probably get more relaxed and play better from now on!

[KC Shox]

Re: offense

Nobody mentioned in this thread or the ingame thread this fact: this is a very young team and they just finished finals week. The frosh all played one of their worst games of the year if not the worst game. It's to be expected. They are probably tired & a bit stressed out. They don't have any school now for 3-4 weeks so will probably get more relaxed and play better from now on!

10 games in, this team has not shown one ounce of having a consistent flowing offense. That's what we are talking about. Tonight was no different than the previous 9 games, that's what we are talking about. No improvement is being made whatsoever.

[Aargh]

Re: offense

Nobody mentioned in this thread or the ingame thread this fact: this is a very young team and they just finished finals week. The frosh all played one of their worst games of the year if not the worst game. It's to be expected. They are probably tired & a bit stressed out. They don't have any school now for 3-4 weeks so will probably get more relaxed and play better from now on!

10 games in, this team has not shown one ounce of having a consistent flowing offense. That's what we are talking about. Tonight was no different than the previous 9 games, that's what we are talking about. No improvement is being made whatsoever.

Clemente was 6 of 6 from the field and had 5 assists. Hawkins had 15 and he was a non-factor at the beginning of the year.

That's progress from those 2 guys. The Fr were down tonight.

Stutz has started playing with more authority and working for position. Unfortunately he was fouling while doing that. That's progress. He's never been this aggressive. Now he needs to learn how to do it and not get called for fouls.

There was progress shown in a number of areas. Some other areas were way down. What we need is consistent improvement without let down from other positions. That's rare with a lot of first-year players.

[WstateU]

Re: offense

Nobody mentioned in this thread or the ingame thread this fact: this is a very young team and they just finished finals week. The frosh all played one of their worst games of the year if not the worst game. It's to be expected. They are probably tired & a bit stressed out. They don't have any school now for 3-4 weeks so will probably get more relaxed and play better from now on!

10 games in, this team has not shown one ounce of having a consistent flowing offense. That's what we are talking about. Tonight was no different than the previous 9 games, that's what we are talking about. No improvement is being made whatsoever.

I'm
Not
Worried!

[WuDrWu]

Some (many) of you simply don't know that much about the game of basketball.


If you did you WOULD see that we are getting in our sets more quickly, running the initial plays more efficiently and without much of the hesitation we saw earlier in the year (still the execution is poor but it is better).

It is the motion offense after the initial play breaks that they are struggling with....it is not an easy thing to learn. They'll continue to get better. You aren't going to get me to say that everything is perfect....far far from it. But to say there isn't improvement is just simply wrong.

Btw, watch the film...we missed a TON of wide open looks today. Perhaps at the end of the year I'll admit I was wrong all this time but I still believe we are a better shooting team than we have shown so far...a lot better.

[WstateU]

Some (many) of you simply don't know that much about the game of basketball.

That's the understatement of the year... quite possibly ShockerNet history.

:good: :good:

[Aargh]

The area of the offense I'd like to see improve is when the Shox either are forced to or want to put up a late shot.

Right now it looks like SIU a couple of years ago when Tatum dribbled until the shot clock was at 3 seconds and then took a shot.

[ShockerFever]

Some (many) of you simply don't know that much about the game of basketball.


If you did you WOULD see that we are getting in our sets more quickly, running the initial plays more efficiently and without much of the hesitation we saw earlier in the year (still the execution is poor but it is better).

It is the motion offense after the initial play breaks that they are struggling with....it is not an easy thing to learn. They'll continue to get better. You aren't going to get me to say that everything is perfect....far far from it. But to say there isn't improvement is just simply wrong.

Btw, watch the film...we missed a TON of wide open looks today. Perhaps at the end of the year I'll admit I was wrong all this time but I still believe we are a better shooting team than we have shown so far...a lot better.

Execution or not, our offense is still atrocious.

We can get a wide open shot almost anytime we want down the floor. Usually, it's a chuck-up with 3 seconds into the shot clock. That's not an offense. That's not running an offense. It's not just about getting open looks, it's about getting open looks in rhythm - i.e. PASSING the ball. Every time we PASSED the ball we pretty much scored. Hannah, Clemente all showed what happens when we do simple passes.

I've seen little, if any, improvement. And it's getting very, veryyy close to Valley time.

8th still looks spot on at this point.

Some of you predicting 3rd-6th finishes, I'd argue, don't know basketball..

[vancedave56]

Agree with the Dr. :yes:

[forevershockerfan]

ShockerFever---Here was your own predictions on Dec 4th.

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:29 pm

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1. Illinois State
2. Creighton
3. Southern Illinois
4. Drake
5. Evansville
6. Wichita State
7. Bradley
8. Missouri State
9. Northern Iowa
10. Indiana State

Expect a lot more fluctuating by the end of the month.

WSU is fortunate the Valley is really unimpressive so far. "ShockerFever"

Did you notice where you placed our Shocks? 6th?

Therefore, what about your quote above?


Some of you predicting 3rd-6th finishes, I'd argue, don't know basketball.."ShockerFever"

Please don't be so hard on yourself!!!!!!!

[ShockerFever]

Do you still not understand the difference between where I think we will finish at the END and a weekly rankings system?

Your alter egos of Double Dribble and Tyrone Shoelace are starting to come a callin' again.

Stupid..

[WSUShokker]

anyone seen any christmas spirit?

[TDSHOX]

my complaint is that there where a number of times where JT/GS gained great position down low and the ball handler dribbled or passed away. Our offense runs around 30 + feet from the basket. Yes, there were some nice cuts, so yes some highlights. I am no coach but did stay at the HIEXPRESSS.....