WSU vs. Siena in-game discussion

[vancedave56]

How do you shoot around 30%, turn the ball over 14 times, and still stay within 7 at the half?

Unbelievable..

Defense and rebounding.

[Yellow Snow]

We will look like a completely different team in the second half. It has happened almost every game this year.

[Denny Crane]

sienna 33

wichita state 26

just wanted 2 let u all great shocker fans out there

[ShockerFever]

We have 14 turnovers already?

Yessir. Scott Thompson would be proud.

[RoyalShock]

We will look like a completely different team in the second half. It has happened almost every game this year.

I'm counting on this.

[WuDrWu]

Yes 14, and many of those were not forced. We have been HORRIBLE with the ball.

Very, very dissappointing.

[Denny Crane]

we need other people to rebound besides ramon he has 7 rebounds

[RoyalShock]

So, were there five guys playing well enough that they could be put on the floor together?

[shocks02]

So, were there five guys playing well enough that they could be put on the floor together?

That would probably be

Murry
Ellis
Clemente
?
?

[shocker0624]

im very impressed with ellis so far today

Hitting guarded jumpers does not impress me. Pounding the glass, playing defense and not being confused impresses me.


Aaron has been hitting the boards hard of late and that's a good sign. Personally, even though they went in, I haven't liked his shot selection at all so far.

didnt hcgm say something along the lines of "i want makers not shooters"

[RoyalShock]

So, were there five guys playing well enough that they could be put on the floor together?

That would probably be

Murry
Ellis
Clemente
?
?

I'll take that as a "no".

[RoyalShock]

didnt hcgm say something along the lines of "i want makers not shooters"

Check my signature. It's there.

[Yellow Snow]

Graham starts second half, and ellis

[shockar25]

I still think we can. The talent is this tourney is much better quality than we'll see in the Valley.

Uh, I'm not that impressed with Siena, and really wasn't too impressed with Georgetown either. I think you're underestimating how bad we suck. I mean we're talking missed layups, sloppy play, no offense. This is on us..

We're talking about basketball in November. The rest of the college basketball fan-base hasn't even realized that the season has begun yet. Give it some time, man. We're playing what, 11 freshman and sophomores? It's a work in progress.

That is all well and good, but I don't see how you can expect this team shooting woes to change. You can either shoot (or in Marshall venicular be a "Maker") or you can't. This team can't shoot and that has been pretty consistent regardless of the opponent.

I respectfully disagree. The team looks 'tight' and a bit nervous--particularly the guards. That can effect our ability to shoot. I think if they can relax a bit and not let Sienna's press rattle them so much their shooting will likely improve. I don't think they are a 'lights-out' shooting team, but we have some shooters.

Remember that they shot over 50% (53%) against Centenary, so they haven't shot poorly against all opponents.

You can just see the inexperience and the really silly decision making that is accompanying that. Taking more high percentage shots is the key to better overall % and they are missing easy layups sometimes. To me, that's nerves and lack of focus. They played with a bit of confidence yesterday, and we've yet to see that confidence today. They also have to take more open shots and not force them and their percentage will rise as well. So to me, it's not just a simple "You either can shoot, or you can't" because there are far more issues involved than that.

The good news is that as bad as certain things have gone so far, with this team they are just as likely to turn it around in the 2nd half. They certainly have it in them. Consistency is what will plague this team all season I am pretty sure. Hopefully it will get better as we go along.

[shocker0624]

didnt hcgm say something along the lines of "i want makers not shooters"

Check my signature. It's there.

ha i just saw that