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  • #46
    The BE is going to explode at some point and probably in the not too distant future. Personally, I think 10 teams is ideal. But if a shake up happens it's going to effect a number of conferences.
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    • #47
      The best and easiest thing that could happen would be to take the schools that get the boot and form their own conference. But that probably won't happen.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by rrshock
        The best and easiest thing that could happen would be to take the schools that get the boot and form their own conference. But that probably won't happen.
        I would imagine that could turn out to be a mighty weak conference.

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        • #49
          I wouldn't expect any changes to the BCS conferences until the current BCS agreement expires. To many legal ramifications.

          And when they do realign, look for them to align with 6 conferences with 10 teams each, leaving the weaker schools on their own and out of the BCS money. Less schools means more money for those remaining.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Downtown Shocker Brown
            I wouldn't expect any changes to the BCS conferences until the current BCS agreement expires. To many legal ramifications.

            And when they do realign, look for them to align with 6 conferences with 10 teams each, leaving the weaker schools on their own and out of the BCS money. Less schools means more money for those remaining.
            DSB, the BCS has nothing to do with basketball, supposedly.

            If they keep the 10 BCS football level schools and also retain Georgetown and Villanova, which play FCS football, they would have 12 teams to play BCS if they get the others to make the jump up. That is if the add UCF and Memphis.

            A league must have 12 or more BCS level teams in order to play a league championship game. Only the ACC, SEC, Big 12 and MAC currently meet those requirements. The Big East would if the 2 others move up. They would then have no reason to retain the non-football playing schools.

            So Marquette, DePaul, Notre Dame, Seton Hall, St. John's, and Providence would all get the boot. Notre Dame doesn't play BE football, so they lose out there.

            Out of those schools, all but Providence are usually or have been decent in basketball. So they try to poach a handful of others and form their own league? MVC will lose out on that deal for sure.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by rrshock
              Originally posted by Downtown Shocker Brown
              I wouldn't expect any changes to the BCS conferences until the current BCS agreement expires. To many legal ramifications.

              And when they do realign, look for them to align with 6 conferences with 10 teams each, leaving the weaker schools on their own and out of the BCS money. Less schools means more money for those remaining.
              DSB, the BCS has nothing to do with basketball, supposedly.

              If they keep the 10 BCS football level schools and also retain Georgetown and Villanova, which play FCS football, they would have 12 teams to play BCS if they get the others to make the jump up. That is if the add UCF and Memphis.

              A league must have 12 or more BCS level teams in order to play a league championship game. Only the ACC, SEC, Big 12 and MAC currently meet those requirements. The Big East would if the 2 others move up. They would then have no reason to retain the non-football playing schools.

              So Marquette, DePaul, Notre Dame, Seton Hall, St. John's, and Providence would all get the boot. Notre Dame doesn't play BE football, so they lose out there.

              Out of those schools, all but Providence are usually or have been decent in basketball. So they try to poach a handful of others and form their own league? MVC will lose out on that deal for sure.
              I agree the BCS doesn't directly affect basketball, but that is the major source of revenue for those conferences.

              I would expect the Big East to re-organize sometime after 2011, but at this point there is nothing to confirm that they have talked to Memphis. All reports from the BE and Memphis say that the discussion hasn't even came up.

              We would be out of whack for that new conference that did not play football. Too far west. Now, imagine in a perfect world that we could lure a couple into the MVC leaving this:

              East: Marquette, Notre Dame, Depaul, Illinois State, Indiana State, Bradley

              West: St. Louis, Creighton, Wichita State, Missouri State, Oral Roberts, Northern Iowa

              I didn't do any research to compare baseball and football, but for basketball that would be an exciting conference.

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              • #52
                Where's SIU on there DSB? Maybe move SIU in the East and put Marquette in the west instead of ORU.

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                • #53
                  I was creating an "Exciting" conference. Not a realistic one... :D

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Downtown Shocker Brown
                    I was creating an "Exciting" conference. Not a realistic one... :D




                    We all know how non exciting SIU basketball is
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by SubGod22
                      Originally posted by Downtown Shocker Brown
                      I was creating an "Exciting" conference. Not a realistic one... :D




                      We all know how non exciting SIU basketball is
                      I get ya now. But as painful as it is to watch them (as in I fall asleep rather quickly), they would still need to be in the conference.

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                      • #56
                        And just for the sake of argument, especially for the die hard baseball fans, that wouldn't be that bad of a league either that Dowtown mentioned.

                        Notre Dame 16-10, 31-21-1
                        SLU 24-29 (only won 20 games 6 times ever: OUCH!)
                        ORU 24-4, 43-12

                        Marquette and DePaul don't play baseball. You would lose Evansville's and SIU's baseball teams and Drake didn't have one either. So that would make a 10 team baseball league too.

                        But I'd still rather keep SIU and not have ORU or SLU.

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