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  • Originally posted by JayPak View Post
    Rumor at Creighton a year ago was that Creighton was working on scheduling Gonzaga for a H&H starting in 2017-18, and if that didn't pan out they would schedule a H&H with Wichita as a backup. It was announced this week that the Jays got Gonzaga, starting this coming season in Spokane, so I'm not optimistic we will seen the return of WSU to the schedule in men's basketball. On the plus side, looking forward to a continuation of the volleyball series at Koch.
    If I was Greg I would much rather play in Spokane than Wichita next year too.

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    • Yay or Nay from a fan/admin standpoint?

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      • Originally posted by UCONN_Husky View Post
        Yay or Nay from a fan/admin standpoint?

        https://www.fanragsports.com/cbb/rot...son-challenge/
        Nay. Barely regionally interesting.

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        • Originally posted by UCONN_Husky View Post
          Yay or Nay from a fan/admin standpoint?

          https://www.fanragsports.com/cbb/rot...son-challenge/
          I think any of those teams could get a H/H with the other if they wanted. They are generally good games, however.
          Wichita State, home of the All-Americans.

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          • Originally posted by UCONN_Husky View Post
            Yay or Nay from a fan/admin standpoint?

            https://www.fanragsports.com/cbb/rot...son-challenge/
            It's not the worst they could do, but I think the Big East is a better and more appropriate target given history (AAC forming form the old Big East explosion, WSU/Creighton etc). A10 is now a step down from the AAC. I think Jon is wrong in the fact that the AAC will start being blended with the P5/BE more in Men's basketball. I don't see the A10 getting there.

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            • I agree with everything said. Glad to see Shocker fans having a similar reactions to those of your future conference mates.

              Big East/AAC Challenge would be good for the game, but because it makes too much sense, it will likely never happen.

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              • Originally posted by UCONN_Husky View Post
                Big East/AAC Challenge would be good for the game, but because it makes too much sense, it will likely never happen.
                Now THIS would have some serious interest west of Peoria (pun intended) :cowbell:

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                • I am also skeptical of these things for non-power conferences because they tend to become at-large elimination games for such schools (see WSU vs VCU in 2011).
                  78-65

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                  • Originally posted by WuShock16 View Post
                    I am also skeptical of these things for non-power conferences because they tend to become at-large elimination games for such schools (see WSU vs VCU in 2011).
                    absofrigginlutely.

                    and who is that guy to say that the aac will never equal the "p5" or the big east? i could envision the aac giving them a go of it, maybe even next year. c'mon now: memphis (tubby will turn it around), cincinnatti, temple, uconn, wichita state, smu (now), ucf (johnny dawkins getting it done) etc. great coaches all over the american. man, that's the conference of destiny.. and intensity.

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                    • I agree in some contexts with Rothstein in respect to it being an uphill battle for The American to level footing with the power conferences; the financial chasm between the finances of the P5, and most of the rest of the middle earth like the AAC, MWC, A10, and (yes) the BE are absolutely staggering. There are some exceptions to that statement - UCONN being one in particular - but very, very few otherwise.

                      That said, to say a conference which includes MBB DNA like Cincy, UCONN, Memphis, Temple, Houston, SMU, Wichita, and Tulsa will never be seen as a peer to a group of marginally-funded, small alumni volume and limited-reach fan base privates like the BE is ridiculous and asinine. The AAC is at it's nadir in competitiveness historically (if viewing the programs separately historically, but collectively for current argument), whereas the BE is in many ways enjoying an apex. If they were stocks, which one would you buy, and which one would you sell?

                      In the next few seasons I anticipate the AAC and the BE to move back and forth across one another in the 4-6 range, RPI-wise. The AAC and BE are market comparables, in many respects.

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                      • Originally posted by another shocker View Post
                        absofrigginlutely.

                        and who is that guy to say that the aac will never equal the "p5" or the big east? i could envision the aac giving them a go of it, maybe even next year. c'mon now: memphis (tubby will turn it around), cincinnatti, temple, uconn, wichita state, smu (now), ucf (johnny dawkins getting it done) etc. great coaches all over the american. man, that's the conference of destiny.. and intensity.
                        🌻 GO Shocks 🌻
                        SHOCKERS & AWE

                        "Go Ahead, Try To Jinx Us" ~ The Monsters Of The Midwest

                        "Wichita State fans bring the noise to another level. The roar
                        gets into your skull, giving you a mild case of vertigo."

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                        • Originally posted by SHOCKvalue View Post
                          I agree in some contexts with Rothstein in respect to it being an uphill battle for The American to level footing with the power conferences; the financial chasm between the finances of the P5, and most of the rest of the middle earth like the AAC, MWC, A10, and (yes) the BE are absolutely staggering. There are some exceptions to that statement - UCONN being one in particular - but very, very few otherwise.

                          That said, to say a conference which includes MBB DNA like Cincy, UCONN, Memphis, Temple, Houston, SMU, Wichita, and Tulsa will never be seen as a peer to a group of marginally-funded, small alumni volume and limited-reach fan base privates like the BE is ridiculous and asinine. The AAC is at it's nadir in competitiveness historically (if viewing the programs separately historically, but collectively for current argument), whereas the BE is in many ways enjoying an apex. If they were stocks, which one would you buy, and which one would you sell?

                          In the next few seasons I anticipate the AAC and the BE to move back and forth across one another in the 4-6 range, RPI-wise. The AAC and BE are market comparables, in many respects.
                          Do you see the Big East joining the American in the future???
                          SHOCKERS & AWE

                          "Go Ahead, Try To Jinx Us" ~ The Monsters Of The Midwest

                          "Wichita State fans bring the noise to another level. The roar
                          gets into your skull, giving you a mild case of vertigo."

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                          • Originally posted by ShanShock View Post
                            Do you see the Big East joining the American in the future???
                            No?

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                            • Originally posted by SHOCKvalue View Post
                              No?
                              It would be so cool if Army could join the American. If expansion occurs, who do you see joining???
                              SHOCKERS & AWE

                              "Go Ahead, Try To Jinx Us" ~ The Monsters Of The Midwest

                              "Wichita State fans bring the noise to another level. The roar
                              gets into your skull, giving you a mild case of vertigo."

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                              • Originally posted by SHOCKvalue View Post
                                I agree in some contexts with Rothstein in respect to it being an uphill battle for The American to level footing with the power conferences; the financial chasm between the finances of the P5, and most of the rest of the middle earth like the AAC, MWC, A10, and (yes) the BE are absolutely staggering. There are some exceptions to that statement - UCONN being one in particular - but very, very few otherwise.

                                That said, to say a conference which includes MBB DNA like Cincy, UCONN, Memphis, Temple, Houston, SMU, Wichita, and Tulsa will never be seen as a peer to a group of marginally-funded, small alumni volume and limited-reach fan base privates like the BE is ridiculous and asinine. The AAC is at it's nadir in competitiveness historically (if viewing the programs separately historically, but collectively for current argument), whereas the BE is in many ways enjoying an apex. If they were stocks, which one would you buy, and which one would you sell?

                                In the next few seasons I anticipate the AAC and the BE to move back and forth across one another in the 4-6 range, RPI-wise. The AAC and BE are market comparables, in many respects.
                                the aac was at it's nadir last year. the addition of wichita state next year should be an immediate and significant boost.

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